Mick McCarthy Latest Favourite For Leeds Job TSS February 13, 2012 Leeds United 71 Comments Mick McCarthy is now favourite with some bookies to become next Leeds United manager with odds as low as 3/1 with Paddy Power. McCarthy, who has two Championship titles to his name with Sunderland (2004-05) and Wolves (2008-09) was sacked by Wolves following a run of 22 games that saw the Barnsley born manager pick up only 14 points. With similar odds to McCarthy, Neil Redfearn is still considered favourite with some bookies despite a 2-1 home defeat to Brighton & Hove Albion on Saturday. Also sharing odds as low as 3/1 with Labrokes and William Hill is one of the earlier favourites Steve Bruce. Elsewhere, Neil Warnock‘s long time assistant Keith Curle was spotted at Elland Road this weekend but at 5/1, this seems to have had little effect on Warnock’s odds. Other names being linked with the job include Paul Ince with odds as low as 6/1 at Sky Bet, Keith Hill and Dougie Freedman (both 8/1 with Ladbrokes) and Dave Jones (7/1 Ladbrokes). With so many names still in the hat, it’s difficult to predict who will be next Leeds United manager at this stage. The relatively short odds on so many different candidates suggest bookies are no wiser than we are, but with such an open field, they’ll be raking the cash in regardless of who Ken Bates name as Simon Grayson’s successor. phi1888 still haven’t heard a name that inspires any optimism for the future:-( Tyler75 I certainly wouldn’t be averse to McCarthy taking the job – excellent track record of taking clubs with high expectations into the Premier League as well as International experience. If he does come to Leeds it would be on his terms as he’s no ‘yes man’ and would demonstrate that Bates & Harvey might actually be serious about re-establishing the club in the top flight. TSS @Tyler75 Agree. Also has a better record than Warnock. Both have two recent Championship promotions, except Mick won the league both times and he kept Wolves up with no cash (relatively speaking) for the past two seasons. Not shy of putting players in their place either, I’d be incredibly happy if he was handed the role. Plus he’s a Leeds fan. And pretty funny. Important factors. Captaincrash @TSS @Tyler75 BUT ….. he will have a perception/expectation of a wage that may differ to someone else’s….! I agree he would be the best of all of the names mentioned to date. Ron_Galea @Captaincrash @TSS @Tyler75 Mick is a nice blend of a good manager and a realistic option. The fact he’s a likeable chap may put him at odds with Bates though. I’d be wrapped if we snare him. mralchemy Mick McCarthy is about as good as it gets, I cant believe the lack of urgency in an appointment. I worry about the club at the moment, no manager, a lack of professionalism according to N Redfearn, no defence, psycho chairman…………things are not exactly on the up, we need a miracle worker, or at least someone in quick to make a start on turning things round. Paul S Wales @mralchemy Agree about the lack of urgency, especially as we’re still within sniffing distance of the play-offs. Wolves have announced they plan to recruit by the weekend hopefully. If NR loses the next two games we may be too far from redemption. Dje Seems bizarre that a manager can be sacked for his side utterly falling apart and another team’s fans are jumping at the bit to take him on as their next football manager. Desperate days. Not that I object; it just seems a more than a funny old game. mralchemy @Dje You are not wrong ! TimPM @Dje I think reactions like that are a bit knee-jerk. He’s done well at Ireland, he’s done well at Sunderland before being stabbed in the back and losing to the b*stard who lost him the Irish job in the first place, then he’s gone to a Wolves side that was almost falling apart through sales and lack of direction, and taken them into the Premiership. He’s not done that well the last couple of years, but he did what we need when they were in our position. TSS @TimPM@Dje Relatively speaking, he did well at Wolves. Nothing to spend and kept them up for two consecutive seasons, what more did they expect of him? Better than Warnock in my opinion, and much more likeable. Dje @TimPM It wasn’t a critique of McCarthy, it was a critique of the oddball world of football. If you got given your P45 for failing to deliver in your current job you would be astonished if you were headhunted within hours by a rival firm. As I said, just bizarre. TSS @Dje@TimPM I wasn’t disagreeing with that entirely. I just think he was successful at Wolves considering the relative funds he had available to him. Same reason SG’s sacking was madness and he’ll have no trouble finding a new job. TimPM @Dje Heheh. Fair enough. I said that because my immediate reaction a few articles ago was “he’s hardly flourishing at Wolves” Footy is a wierd world indeed… Col Wake up!! McCarthy or any decent manager won’t be joining Leeds. Why would Bates suddenly change his tight-fisted ways? Redfearn will get the job, even if we have a string of bad results. Kernow Shoot me now! number1inyorkshire think i was 1 of the 1st to mention mcarthy on here a while ago now he was one of the favs before he went to wolves for the leeds job .. he has done well with wolves but they have spent more than we think but if its him or warnock then there si only 1 winner pgmark When we talked about Warnock it was ‘He may not like Leeds but he’s proven at getting teams into the Premiership’. McCarthy is the same except he likes Leeds. He may not be proven with big Premier League teams but he is with what we are. A strong and ambitious Championship club with less resources but more history (and pulling power) than other clubs. I really think he is perfect for the job. As a solution to getting out of the Championship dogfight he’s spot on. As a manager who could stabalise us and make us an established premiership club he is the one to do it. He probably wouldn’t be a manager to lead us back to the top of the top flight but we are a long way from that. He more than anyone else is my choice. Koppite 1 Mick Mcarthy …don’t make me laugh! I suppose Roy Keane will be his assistant . Goug4 It has occurred to me that perhaps the reason Bates gave Redfearn 3 games is because he wanted McCarthy and MM only had 2 games to save his job. Bates did say we had been offered managers currently employed so he would perhaps have been privy to this info. saltzby I think we need someone who can mould the players he has into a force to get promotion. Probably Mick can do the job. We are not going to get the best players in every position. Whatever happens I do not want to see Ince at Elland Road. We really will be in trouble if that happens.Thank god it’s only speculation!! Tyler75 @saltzby If Ince comes to ER – in the immortal words of the Kaiser Chiefs, ‘I Predict A Riot’ Thebeeb Even if MM managed to get us promoted the chances of staying there would be slim,look at Wolves record over the past 3 seasons,struggled first season in prem (tbf that is to be expected),escaped relegation by 1 point on final day last season & in the bottom 3 now.Watching their game yesterday they played a CF at fullback & played 3 up front while being overrun in the midfield. Jarvis,a quality winger was played in CMF when his strength is taking on FB,s MM was guilty of not changing this formation until second half.Their big buy of the season was Roger Johnson who wouldn’t get in most pub teams on this seasons form,do we really want that ? TSS @Thebeeb Relative funds have to be taken into consideration. He had nothing to spend – what more do you expect under those circumstances? Keeping them up twice was better than most managers would have managed. Thebeeb Sorry, but the guy has no idea what to do if things are going wrong,Mick is all heart & effort but has very little tactical awareness,his sides look good when things are going well, but fall apart if their tactics aren’t working, with MM pulling his hair out but not reacting by changing things TSS @Thebeeb Sorry but he didn’t win the Championship TWICE by being a tactical buffoon. With Wolves he had the smallest budget in the Prem, little more could be asked or expected of him. He worked miracles. mralchemy @Thebeeb I would be happy with “all heart and effort” at the moment….Martin O’Neill has gone……MM is a good guy, and knows football inside out……..He’s a Yorkshire lad…..Good record of promotions. I want someone IN QUICK to kick some ass ! and get us organised Thebeeb @mralchemy That’s the problem,organisation isn’t MM strong point,his post match interviews are always “we put in a good shift, we were unlucky”,please don’t get me wrong,I don’t have a downer on Mick,I like his grit & determination but that’s just not enough,ok he might get us promoted ,but we won’t stay there,he’s not capable of taking us to the next level,MM knows how to build a championship side but no more than that TSS Two Championship titles, no funding in Prem. He’s an excellent candidate. Weren’t you calling for an experienced head the other day? We don’t want a youngster, that’s just a cheap unknown. TimPM @TSS Add to that, why should Leeds be a managerial academy? We’ve got in the likes of Blackwell, Wise, McAllister, Grayson. Of them, only Grayson left the club in a better condition than he found it. You’ve a fair point about win ratios, though. But what counts is getting to the Premiership. We’ll be so ridiculously artificially funded by the FA once we’re there (and for four years after) that in the long run it’s the best way to look at it (even if it’d be yet more pain in the short term if we went back down!) I’ve never thought we have much of an option beyond Warnock, apart from perhaps Poyet (who politely refused unless he got a silly offer), or Hill (who’s again pretty unproven). Add to that out of desperation DOL! Who SHOULD we get in? I hear plenty saying we shouldn’t get X, or Y; how about some more of our commenters stick their colours to a mast? TimPM @TSS Don’t go in for the Howe love-in. He had a good budget and didn’t get promotion. I agree on Poyet. That said, firing that turd Harvey and buying out his 5 year contract would be a silly offer, wouldn’t it?! (and one I’d make in a heartbeat) lufc79 Let mick have the job till the end of the season and then we can take it from there?no need to throw a long term contract at anybody as it stands. Who ever gets the job now will only be able to use the emergency loan window.then thats if KB allows him to as i cant see any team wanting any of our fringe players at the moment. mralchemy @lufc79 I think out squad is pretty good, I think they need organising, motivating, and need lessons in what is expected at LUFC….i think then we might see a different Leeds lufc79 what i ment was the players around the the first team that cant get in to the team. Ron_Galea I think people are forgetting that the only time McCarthy had a decent squad under him, they reached the knockout stages of the 2002 world cup. He has struggled at clubs that have not spent money in the premier league admittedly, but keeping Wolves up has been a success in itself. I’m not sure what people are expecting, but this is a positive if we are in fact considering him. Chareose Mick Mcarthy is a leeds man and so is more likely to put up with being shat on by Bates in order to keep his dream job just as Grayson was, therefore he may just be in with a shout…….. Chareose Mick Mcarthy is a leeds man and so is more likely to put up with being shat on by Bates in order to keep his dream job just as Grayson was, therefore he may just be in with a shout…….. Im not sure id want to see him at Elland Road just yet though….. hes more likely to get something out of the squad than say NR and therefore could prolong our love in with Ken Bates and even more agony in the future when Mcarthys reign ends in similar fashion to Graysons…….. Tyler75 @Chareose Not sure McCarthy is the type of guy to put up with any shit; which is why he may not come ! whitemartin grow up….. thats what we needed the young managers too do and they couldn’t! Stepping up to the mark from an authoritive perspective is what we need, and the right people to support the man in charge – McCarthy has the stature and authority our young players (and older heads) need right now, and with the support of the likes of Redfearn and Day could do a great interim job. Lets get where we need to be and reassess then – Mick can do that without creating the bad feeling in the club that would be left afterwards by the likes of Messr’s Warnock, Ince and Co………Better still bring Steve Bruce in as his deputy till the end of the season – its only 14 weeks. TSS @whitemartin Not entirely sure who that was aimed at, but agree. I’d be happy with McCarthy. Bluesman I think that we will get the one who accepts the lowest wages- true to form. Then no money for transfer fees next season. God help the good men of LUFC Bluesman Go on then Ken and co. show that you have some balls for a change and go get Mick McCarthy! whitemartin I smile………………………………… Thebeeb I would never claim to be any kind of expert on football,but I do work with a Wolves season ticket holder & we spend many hours talking about our respective sides,the most concerning thing I hear is how naive Wolves are in defence (ring any bells) ,they have 2 good forwards in Fletcher & Doyle but know they will always concede,this fella has backed MM all the way but told me 3 weeks ago that he had to go ,nice guy but not good enough TSS @Thebeeb You get what you pay for though, surely? Wolves were massively underfunded compared to clubs in the Premier League. Wouldn’t you expect them to struggle against multi-million pound strike forces? He kept them up twice, that was nothing short of miraculous in my opinion. mralchemy @TSS @Thebeeb yeah he did a good job considering…….Wolves were down in the lower divisions for years until MM came along Tyler75 @Thebeeb The Teams that he got promoted from the Championship were built from the back and his Ireland teams were difficult to beat and shipped few goals. Sometimes a Manager is at a club too long and with limited resources, can’t get any more out of the players at his disposal, which may well have been the case with Mick. mralchemy @Tyler75 @Thebeeb seems like a fair assessment Thebeeb @Tyler75 Good point,problem is that’s us ,limited resources,I know my mate looks at Swansea & Norwich and sees teams with limited funding playing far more attractive football & staying out of trouble TSS @Thebeeb@Tyler75 Difference there is that they had some excellent players that they invested appropriately to keep and have since just cherry picked with bottom half funding. They’ve followed through on a long-term vision which we simply don’t have. If we had, Howson, Beckford, Gradel etc… would all have been tied down early and still be playing for us now. Probably in the Prem. jimmyoneeye really?? we r only a few points behind Reading yet Grayson gets the sack? mralchemy Food for thought…………..bring in vinnie and strachan – bad cop / good cop can you imagine someone having a bad game and having to face Vinnie !, the players would be running round to save their lives, I would be happy with De Matteo Warnock would be a laugh……..O driscoll was doing really well at Donny , playing good football until he got unlucky with injuries…….. Dave Jones does have a good record, Steve Bruce would be hard for the fans to take…..but he does know what is required……… Roy Keane would be lynched by the Leeds fans , BUT he did an amazing job of turning round Sunderland…. yes i am mental ! gerrycwmbran Cracking Article – but there’s no way anyone is going to come to take over: 1…Bates wants to spend NO money (Neil costs sod all) 2…We will win against Coventry and Donnie (“Neil is doing a wonderful job”) 3…Neil will be grateful to keep the job and don his cap to Smurf BY THE WAY>>> 4…Why no attendance figures for last saturday – for the first time this season? It’s obviously because we’ve slipped down to FIFTH in average attendances BEFORE last saturday – and after saturday’s poor attendance we’ll be down to perhaps SEVENTH or even EIGHTH in attendances! NO WONDER NO FIGURES RELEASED ON OFFICIAL SITE! What has our glorious club come down to…? Dje @gerrycwmbran “Att: 23,171″. I think we should just put it down to a Monday morning hangover in the Leeds United admin. Dje Except the obvious point, Colin: I new man coming in after the transfer window is shut is a cheap man. Personally I think it is as much Bates wanting to see some return from the B-team we brought in on frees two years ago: Bruce, Sam, Paynter, Brown, O’Brien, more than stubbornly refusing to pay for any new transfers (although that is still a worthy suspicion). But, yes, waiting until March is unforgivable. I can only hope that it is because our new manager is currently unavailable rather than Bates genuinely thinking Redfearn and our Academy goalkeeping coach secretly had it in them to take us further than Grayson-Miller-Snodin did all along. morleywhite Ray Wilkins maybe? Dje Don’t you reckon Bates believes his own lies though, Colin? I genuinely belief he thinks Grayson should have had us up in the top two at this stage of the season – regardless of our mediocre squad. The other day Bates was laughing that Grayson wanted to bring in another central midfielder and it’d cost £1.2m over the course of his contract. That isn’t much, especially if it was a two or three year contract. But more worrying was Bates seemingly oblivious to the thought that we had just sold one of our two regular central midfielders: Howson. To you or I it is obvious that you need to try and replace Howson, like for like. Instead Bates just played the numbers and said we had enough bodies in midfield already. I think he said thisa numbered eight already and mocked Grayson for it. Wow, eight midfielders in the squad when we have more often than not played five across midfield. What a think cunt he really must be if he believes that sheer numbers will do, quantity over quality, especially when the quantity isn’t even very large. When you don;t give a shit about quality then really why would Bates worry himself to add haste to get promoted? To you or I, we know that if we don’t succeed this year, or at least improve on last season, then White, Clayton, Lees, McCormack and Snodgrass (the last jewel) will all be off in the summer. The mediocre squad we already have will then be in a pitiful shape and next season will be a struggle to stay up. But if Dates believes the most important thing is cash-in on players before they walk off for free then he’ll take the cash and give us more Brown’s, Paynter’s, Bruce’s in their place to make up the numbers. At which point, with an inevitable win for Redfearn against either Coventry or Doncaster (surely we can beat one of them!), he’ll give him the job ’til the end of the season. A permanent manager will then be tempted in with the promise that Snodgrass’s imminent transfer fee (after he has asked to be transfer listed) will be there for the new manager to recruit replacements and re-strengthen. To Warnock or McCartney, or whoever, £4-5m probably looks adequate to build a team to compete for the Championship title next season. Only we all know that whoever comes in will be hoodwinked and receive only a fraction of any transfer fees for our last remaining talent. So, sadly I don’t think Bates will ever consider himself a failure and will continue to blame everyone but himself regardless of our results. Tis grim. TSS My (admittedly lousy) photoshopping skills at work – http://twitpic.com/8jhxtc Dje @TSS To be honest, it looks more like Frank Gallagher joining the LUST cause by don-ing a Bates face mask. TSS @Dje That’s just a happy coincidence lol Dje They say Valentines is a testing time for many with unfulfilled promises; I sense you are not taking the ‘separation’ well, Colin! Tyler75 All good points Colin, however I would argue with an experienced Manager like McCarthy coming in to galvanise the players there is no reason why 8 points from those 4 games is not achievable – with more or less the same players we stuffed Hull earlier in the season, only lost to Boro because of 2 sendings off and outplayed them with 10 men, more than matched West Ham and had a shocker on the first day of the season against a newly promoted side. This is the crux for me, if Bates truly believes in and wants promotion then McCarthy or Warnock or Curbishley or even Di Matteo is a no-brainer. Unfortunately I don’t believe he’s interested or committed to establishing Leeds Utd as a top-flight side; so it will be Redfearn on the cheap or Ince to finish off the job of antagonising us ‘morons’. Tyler75 @Dje Make sure its not the West Stand, as it will probably fall down if you do ! pete58 This website is probably the only thing keeping me out of the loony bin, and has been for some time. thanks to all! WE ARE LEEDS! jimmyoneeye I agree with looking at a long term project as regards the new manager but whats the point with Bates, how many managers did he go through at Chelsea and now with us?? Was Grayson the longest serving of them all? He has no understanding of building a team in the long term or keeping hold of a manager for years, you may as well go for a quick fix to get promotion if all the twat is going to do is sack them in a couple of seasons anyway. BigGav1001 IS it wrong that I genuinely want us to lose at Coventry 2nite so that hates doesn’t give the job to redfearn! I would love to see mcarthy, o’driscol or poyet ( who by the way he has been talking is interested in the job) BigGav1001 Bates! Bluesman For anything to work there has to be shared ambition and vision between the manager and chairman. McCarthy, Warnock, Poyet or who ever cannot do it on their own. If Bates or Harvey are leaving everything to the manager, who has no transfer budget, and it just doesn’t work! Bates and Harvey need to start accepting their responsibility for the situation. BigGav1001 I think with a new manager appointed straight away we could maybe have a chance of making he play offs this season. If we give it to redfearn and wait till the summer then we are basically writing this season off and just planning for next year which doesn’t give me anything to look forward to for the rest of the season apart from to watch everybody else’s club get excited about possible promotion! MOT BigGav1001 Also poyet would be my first choice then mcarthy then odriscol TimPM @BigGav1001 Wehave a chance of winning playoffs. But if Bates would promise us someone like Poyet in the Summer as a trade-in for accepting “Redders” I reckon most fans would take it. But if he doesn’t, and that’s his way of thinking, it’s a bad do because the fans are getting increasingly restless at what seems like yet more dithering and lack of ambition.