Comical Peter – The Fall From Grace Of A Legend Matt BB February 19, 2012 Leeds United 39 Comments It’s hard to know now who to trust in the increasingly duplicitous world that is our British Media. Throw into the mix a Chairman more cunning than Lucretia Borgia, Kim Philby & Dick Dastardly combined and matters can only get worse for Leeds supporters. Gradually we have seen the previously ambivalent media, especially the Yorkshire Evening Post (YEP) begin to turn their gaze towards Elland Road, the scent of revolution becoming ever more pungent, with each passing rant from Chairman Ken, and each riposte from the supporters. Even the Daily Mail, revolution-averse as they may be, seem to be intent on stoking the fire of change (you know things must be really bad for them to fall in with the proletariat in a slug fest versus the landed gentry) Sadly that same YEP, presumably in the interests of balance sees fit to give airtime to the increasingly irritating Peter Lorimer. Lone survivor of the Yorkshire Consortium, his most recent articles not only make the flesh crawl, they also turn the stomach – get your goat, grind your gears, and royally p*ss you off, and that’s just if you’re Simon Grayson. Often not based in fact but woefully out of touch opinion, he’s the board member we’re now all bored of. The Legend we’d all like to be a myth now. Peter for the sake of all that was once good about Leeds, for Don Revie, Billy Bremner, Allan Clarke, Mick Jones, and Paul Reaney – will you button up now please and go back to running your pub. One can only assume he has been given this lease of journalistic life by the Bates regime to distract us all from the continued meltdown of our favourite octogenarian. His articles in the YEP of late are Smithers-esque to Bates’ Monty Burns. With all the spin of the above pictured erstwhile spokesman for the Ba’ath party in late 90’s Iraq. Let’s review some of his most recent gems… On Simon Graysons `enormous’ ahem.. squad & the lack of any urgency to invest in the squad from his article 3rd February. “I was considering this the other day and worked out that there’s a full team of his players who are hardly involved, either as starters or substitutes – Paul Rachubka, Paul Connolly, Leigh Bromby, Andy O’Brien, Alex Bruce, Michael Brown, Ramon Nunez, Lloyd Sam, Billy Paynter, Mikael Forssell and Mika Vayrynen. To anyone who thinks Leeds United don’t invest or failed to back Grayson, look at that list. You’ve got 11 experienced lads there, many of whom have been in and out at best” Now of course if we put that team out then quite frankly the disasters and emergency committee would need to start an appeal the following Monday so grisly would the scenes of carnage be at Elland Road. And yes Simon signed those players, but Lorimer is in the box seat here, he knows a.) Just how little finance was available to Grayson, and b.) That this desperation meant if we had an option to buy a player for a fee, or one slightly worse for free, then a glowing resume would no doubt appear courtesy of Messrs Harvey & Williams to Bates explaining why indeed we shouldn’t spend money on Gary Hooper or Billy Sharp – but on Billy Paynter instead – “oh is he free as well Uncle Ken…? oooh how nice” we know how it goes. Of that list as The Scratching Shed has pointed out the sum total of fees is still less than most other clubs have paid for a single player in the Championship. So just what is Lorimer trying to prove? That Grayson was incompetent? That the board provided top quality players? Now come on Peter give us some credit… On Jonny Howson’s exit, he is equally skewed in his view of matters, and several country miles away from what most fans perceived as the truth behind his departure to Bumpkin Land. “Make no mistake – Jonny isn’t being forced out. The club have been trying to agree a new contract with him for months and the offer to him was a good one. But he wants to play Premier League football next season and we can’t promise him that. There’s a great chance of us winning promotion, but it’s certainly not guaranteed.” No it’s certainly not `guaranteed’ so goes the understatement of our season. So again flying in the face of what most fans saw, that Jonny Howson was unconvinced by our levels of investment, and the management of the club. Moreover Ben Parkers sideswipe at Lorimer (for which he should be given the freedom of the city) for seemingly putting all of this at the feet of the player revealed this to be a fallacy at best, and at worst a dreadful piece of propaganda from the Bates regime. In Lorimer’s latest article about how Grayson had unprofessionally treated his players and left a `fractured’ dressing room, sees Lorimer refer to `several senior players’ opinions on Grayson to support this (he refers to Connolly chiefly). Now one respondent to this article in the YEP responded almost straight away that this was a `cheap cheap shot’ against someone who couldn’t defend themselves. It paints a picture that all managers in any business dread where you have no control over your staff (in Grayson’s case players) some players like staff will inevitably go off the boil; you need support from above in dealing with them, moving them on and so forth. Bates’ eye-watering contractual constraints meant that it would be hard for Grayson to :- a.) Terminate players contracts – logically one would assume once those monies were spent they’d come out of the fabled `war chest’ and b.) Preclude signing a replacement.. The net result of which is he became stranded with players he no longer wanted, who no longer wanted to be there? So what kind of an atmosphere would that create? Their ability becomes immaterial then and they become a burden. This is a direct result of the inflexibility of our board, not supporting the manager – honestly – how would Fergie have coped with Paul Ince long term, or even Gordon Strachan with whom he seemingly also fell out? It’s vital for the manager to be just that – the manager, and in charge of hiring and firing… I’m forgetting of course .. c.) If we did get a transfer fee and saved wages on moving on say – Paul Connolly – would Grayson even get that money back to spend? We all have a great deal of sympathy with Andy O’Brien and what we’ve all recently found out about his condition, but this lack of professionalism at the club and seeming damning of Grayson in the Media is embodied in their management of this. Literally on the eve of Grayson’s departure back into the squad comes O’Brien, recovering from depression, and lo and behold he’s joining the squad – what did Grayson have to say about that? Well nothing as it happens, as he was out the door less than 48 hours afterwards. He seemed to shoulder the burden of being panto villain in this instance, while Bates himself had been as unequivocal about O’Brien as anyone, formally stating as far as he was concerned he refused to play for the club, and was no longer an employee as far as he was concerned. Let’s be honest no one came off well there, but for me this was a scenario where Grayson really was hung out to dry, and much like Lorimer’s most recent article these are just what the responder in the YEP stated, cheap shots at someone who isn’t (probably legally) allowed to defend themselves. Peter Lorimer has become more and more like Comical Ali – remember him? As the US Marine Corps strolled into Baghdad, stopping to grab a McDonalds, and shoot the breeze while the republican guard turned tail and reached for their fake Turkish and Syrian passports, he told us those same GI’s were `committing suicide at the gates of Baghdad..” no one believed him of course and now no one believes a word of what you’re saying now Peter. On the night of our play off semi final against Carlisle a player from the Revie era, perhaps our best known centre-forward, pulled up next to me in his car. I was of course rather star struck, I shook his hand, and told him what a great player I thought he was, that we could do with some class similar to his these days. I then asked him what he thought the result would be. His response? That our current predicament was `a disgrace’ that he was glad Don Revie didnt live to see it, and would be `turning in his grave’. That’s the kind of honesty Peter needs to remember, playing the blame game does a great player a disservice. And it demeans the efforts and achievements of one of our better managers who sweated blood to get us to where we are now. Perhaps not yet the Premier League, but surely better than where we were that evening against Carlisle. Written by Matt BB CasWhite Good article, but it is all based on opinion. Plus why beleive the Mail or anything it writes when it’s been poor in the past with being accurate. It is interesting that players also have different views of the end of the SG era. Bromby yesterday almost confirmed that he’s lost the dressing room. It would seem things going on at TA weren’t being reported correctly to the management, ie O’Brien. As for Parker his view if I remember is he didn’t know the in and outs of Howson’s deal? Only that he had been informed the day before that a bid had been accepted. Is it not the managers responsiblity to move players on? Yes we could pay up players contracts but how does that help the club?? Don’t sign the dross in the first place. Why do you think we couldn’t move them on? Because SG, who would be involved some way in what contracts were offered, had players on good contracts that others wouldn’t pay. The debate of was SG backed in the transfer market are debatable. But if you’ve got clubs out bidding us for players they can’t afford, ie Portsmouth and David Norris (linked in summer) then the quicker the financial rules come in the better. And as a final note was this legend you talked to blaming anyone?? I met Don in the mid 80’s when Billy was manager and he was always hopeful the club would get back to the top then and the postion was a lot worse in my opinion at that point. TimPM @CasWhite Yes. I think there’s two sides to every coin. Certainly there were some players who were unhappy under SG. But how many clubs have 28 deliriously happy players? I’m not sure whose responsibility it is to move players on but surely Harvey is being paid to sign the players with his monster contacts and business sense, why isn’t he being given the responsibility of hawking them out as well? That would make sense. I agree on the financial fair-play rules – and for those who didn’t see the programme notes (I know you probably did) Ken Bates says he agrees with the Government that the creditors rule should be changed to give small local businesses their cash before the players. He IS capable of talking sense! Col @TimPM @CasWhite Maybe Ken Bates should have thought about small Businesses when he ripped them off by putting Leeds United into administration. The hypocrisy of the bloke is unbelievable!! TimPM @Col @TimPM @CasWhite Yeah. I enjoyed the “I only abided by the rules” bit. That excuse was deemed unacceptable in the late 40s I thought?! CasWhite Maybe the Krasner lot should of thought about the fans before selling ER and TA to save themselves by using the funds to repay a loan they got to buy the club. Did you read the notes in the programme, he actually stated he was only playing by the rules, ie he’d rather of given more to the businesses. I’m unsure what the option was, don’t forget we were the first of what is now many clubs being more vigerously chased by HMR&C. And it was the debt from previous regimes that got us to that stage. TimPM @CasWhite They didn’t have an option did they? We were going bust and it was only when Bates took over that we started to sort things out. Not that I’ll try to defend much of what Krasner did. Never liked him and his little associates. And yeah, I know, I was being unfair to Bates! As I said, I reckon he made eminent sense on changing the rule… But it’ll never happen because there’s nothing in it for him to do anything about it. Now as somebody with the connections he’s got, I’m sure he could do a crusade with some limited objectives to clean up certain aspects of footy. I’m sure that’d get him some good PR and distract from some of those protraying him as a simple leech. Don’t think he has very good advisors surrounding him, though :-/ pnxb1019 An excellent piece Matt BB. I must confess I find myself drawn to the rubbish that Lorimer puts out now. My emotions have ranged from mild annoyance to outright disgust at the crap he spouts. (The Don would definately be ashamed) More recently the insults hurled at Grayson (whether partially correct or not) are just inexcusable – the guy cannot respond!! They are cheap shots. Unfortunately Lorimer has now become a figure of fun and the shame is that he will NEVER recover from this. Once Bates and his accomplices are distant memories , for as long as Lorimer lives , he will be unwelcome and loathed by the majority of Leeds fans. Derided and accused of nothing less than collaboration with the enemies of the club. The comments from Lorimer and Bates just seem to increase the anger and negativity at the club, they need to stop. I was listening yesterday to Neil Warnocks comments after the game yesterday and if Lorimer and Bates can just keep their mouths shut , can just resist goading the fans , insulting the fans , then Warnock might just start to get some positivity back at the club. In normal circumstances he would not be my first choice but you know what , the guy makes me smile , he is positive and could just drownout the crap spouted by Bates and his puppet at least until Bates pisses off once and for all TimPM @pnxb1019 “I was listening yesterday to Neil Warnocks comments after the game yesterday and if Lorimer and Bates can just keep their mouths shut , can just resist goading the fans , insulting the fans , then Warnock might just start to get some positivity back at the club” That’s the key, isn’t it. I’m disappointed in whoever they have advising them (head of a multi-million business they should have somebody). Anybody could tell you by now Lorimer has about 2% credibility and thus would actually be better employed saying the exact opposite of what he believes! Any truths he ever mentions will be discredited by him. Nobody trusts them, they’d be better of keeping shtum if they’re certain they’re in the right – time would tell. WoodyUK @TimPM @pnxb1019 Peter Lorimer “I was considering this the other day and worked out that there’s a full team of his players who are hardly involved, either as starters or substitutes – Paul Rachubka, Paul Connolly, Leigh Bromby, Andy O’Brien, Alex Bruce, Michael Brown, Ramon Nunez, Lloyd Sam, Billy Paynter, Mikael Forssell and Mika Vayrynen. To anyone who thinks Leeds United don’t invest or failed to back Grayson, look at that list. You’ve got 11 experienced lads there, many of whom have been in and out at best. Neil Warnock “I think we’re a long way from being a top side, if I’m honest, but the lads have got spirit and they showed that today” One talking rubbish – one talking sense and I give you only one guess which is the village idiot. Look at the bit part players list and tell me one class act that deserves to be wearing the shirt and I’ll kindly eat my words that Lorimer is anything other than Bates’ mouth piece. Also Warnock’s comments sort of knock Bates’ comments that we have a squad that should be challenging for automatic promotion into a cocked hat as well. henrymouni @TimPM @pnxb1019 Just been listening to Mr Warnock’s interview this morning on LUTV Tim. He is very positive and open in his thinking. He says he gets on very well with KB! He has been watching DVD’s of our other games so realises our weaknesses. He wants to bring 2 or 3 players in, and may have one before the next match. I know we have heard all this before, but I believe him. Mick Jones (the other one) will be his assistant, and he is sorting out another two ASAP. I suppose Keith Curle may be one. We can look forwward to interviews with Neil Warnock from now on. Simon was never very forthcoming. Col Great article. Peter Lorimer’s latest rant about Grayson shows him for what he is, a complete coward! I stopped reading his Bates-propaganda column years ago. Just looking at the headline of it makes my blood boil. History shows back-stabbing and attacking people who cant defend themselves is nothing new to him as anybody who has read his book will testify. Billy Bremner was victim of this. The book contains continuous jibes and attacks Billy, who obviously isn’t here to defend himself. Some of the things Lorimer said were discraceful. I can only presume theses attacks were down to jealousy. What a sad man he has become. It’s about time the YEP pulled the plug on his drivel for good. Hero to zero. WoodyUK I’m starting to become disinterested with anything Peter Lorimer says now. He’s proved himself a company man and not a man of the people. Ken Bates pays his wages and as such we hear what Ken Bates wishes us to hear from him – let’s just move on. He’s made his bed and now has to lay in it. Some of what he says is factual, certain members of the dressing room were unhappy, as indeed there always are when you have professional players not being picked. The difference with Leeds United under Simon Grayson is that he had a core of players that were under performing for him that were seasoned professionals (Connolly, O’Brien, Bromby, Forssell, Vayrynen, Paynter etc) and many young guns (McCormack, Snodgrass, Howson, Lees, White etc) that were trying their socks off for the club. Some players of a certain age are not interested in playing every week because their ambition has gone and they’re not looking at their next move or personal improvement – they’re just looking at their last few years of decent salaries and worrying where the money will come from when they hang up their boots – it’s hard to get rid of them (some of our squad look like they may be in this catagory). Looking at the old pros list tells a disappointing story that many of them are defenders and added to the mix that Parker and Kisnorbo were long term injuries in my opinion points to one of our biggest problems – shaky defence with no dependable depth. I’m a bit biased and absolve Bruce here because I honestly can’t see why SG didn’t like him, he is an honest professional that played no worse than O’Dea and far better than Bromby or O’Brien have been playing for over a year (in my opinion) and also really wanted to play for us. I think Lorimer is becoming rattled with fans turning against him and much of what he wrote in his last article had the sound of desperation, slopey teflon shoulders blame shifting about it – I think I liked him a hell of a lot more when he kept his mouth shut and gave unbiased interviews from his pub number1inyorkshire said ion friday i was off to give exlegend lorimer a piece of my opinion on sat i did . he was little taken aback it wasn’ a ranting ,shouting ,swearing it was more of a chat .he clearly didnt like it and i asked him if he reads the replies on yorkie post he said some ,which means yes .. HE above all the others has plenty to say EDDIE GREY been another both who are in the pay of Bates . i believe its his job to comment on the footy not grayson who bates had a go at yesterday again .he has had no right to reply but i think will when his compo is sorted .. MY advice to him was be careful mr lorimer ,his reply was we are all entitled to our opinions ,we are and people are forming opinions of you was my parting shot /he went into the ground number1inyorkshire pieces of silver did for JUDAS mattbb1 the key to warnock’s post match comments was credibility. Lorimer was never a succesful manager, and was a token member of the board. Warnock has been there and got the tshirt – he also didnt slag off his predecessor, the board or fans who disagree.. he just talked about football, and i found that so refreshing. Lorimer needs to button it, no one wants to hear a sycophant, and no one wants to hear a sneak hypocrising about someone who cant defend themselves. What would Warnock think if Lorimer questioned him in the press? light blue touch paper and stand back. Ditto Bates. jigzy84 @mattbb1 the point is Lorimer wouldn’t need to question Warnock as he will be successful unlike the lg1 manager that is Grayson. mattbb1 lorimer tows the line. of course he wont, but whats pretty pathetic is that when warnock does come under fire, from Bates, lorimer will be in there like a rat up a drainpipe. You say he tells it like it is? i dont think he does, and i dont think i’m alone. I wish larry all the best at hudd. mattbb1 some nugget on facebook, apparently thinks Peter Lorimer `tells it how it is?….” so there you go PL, you ahve one adept. TimPM @mattbb1 That’s probably a fake account of his! Or a relative?! mattbb1 i think youre right there timpm.. Col I can’t remember the last time I felt so hopeful about Leeds United’s future. Warnock is our biggest signing for years. Reasons being, I presume Warnock must have been given assurances that he would be backed in the transfer market. This would appear to signal a more ambitious approach. I still can’t believe that Bates has appointed such an established, strong-willed manager as Warnock. It certainly took me by surprise! Hearing Warnock talk so posatively was a real breath of fresh air and you could sense that the Elland Road crown were more up beat. Let’s hope this is the start of a new era for us. We can only hope this isn’t a false dawn. MOT! WIll23 I can reasonably say that I cannot remember reading a single LUFC player support Simon Grayson, his methods and how good he was on the training pitch and at organising the team Lorimer maybe a puppet but on the matter of Grayson being out of his depth, as Blackpool fans realised and were happy to see him leave, the matter is cut and dried. Grayson was piss poor. mattbb1 yes but players were banned from social media, and plenty did come out and raise their hands concerning their form. It wont be very fashionable soon to even discuss the grayson reign, the point of the article is that lorimer is a shocking facsimile of the man many of us used to respect. Seemingly in the pocket of the bates regime. I think a lot of us want Warnock to succeed, though i think it a massive over-simplification of matters to say grayson had totally lost his marbles, and was incompetent as a manager? after all didnt his team beat warnocks twice last season. WIll23 PS I think this article misses the real point – was Grayson a good manager or not? Peter Lorimer offered his view as he is entitled to do so. Grayson can defend himself, but then you cannot defend indefensible. Most fans with two eyes and a footballing knowledge do recognise Grayson was limited at best, not by the lack of money, but by a lack of simple management ability. That it takes Warnock one minute to sum up a situation, and know what to do, would in contrast take Grayson an eternity. He may have had his coaching badges but he was like a rabbit caught in oncoming headlights and out of his depth. jaucourt @WIll23 He got Blackpool and us out of league one, he gave us a 7th place finish last year, and most outside observers really rate him. Warnock’s yet to manage a single game for us, and Redfearn indicated that he knew what was wrong before taking charge; we then lost two games we should’ve won. Grayson wasn’t perfect, but to say he lacked management ability is utter nonsense. He wouldn’t have had any success at all if he did, let alone have taken us to our highest league position in five years having spent less than 1/2 million in transfer fees. jigzy84 @jaucourt @WIll23 Grayson is a lg1 manager he was inept in the championship. This is proven by the fact he is now managing again in lg1. jaucourt @jigzy84 @jaucourt @WIll23 How does a seventh placed finish, with a squad that cost less than any other in the league, prove that a manager is ‘inept’? jigzy84 @jaucourt @WIll23 simple a 40% win rate at this level that was falling and fast! jaucourt @jigzy84 @WIll23 2010-11, lufc under Grayson won 19 from 46, 41.3%. In 2011-12, lufc under Grayson won 12 from 28, 42.9%. So it was going up. Despite Gradel having been flogged and not replaced. mattbb1 warnock has a win rate of just under 40% – do you think he’s inept? jigzy84 Peter Lorimer speaks more than sense it’s a shame that the author of this article is so blind to see that, everything he says has substance and foundation. He provides an insight into a football club that most fans of other clubs would be grateful for yet a section of Leeds fans seam so biased in there conjectured opinions that they will not allow themselves to believe the truth. This site always offers me a smile reading the words of the minority is pure laughable and entertaining! Neil Warnock is a great manager at this level and you refuse to accept that Bates and Harvey made the right decision to sack Grayson and hire Warnock, some people may have foundation to question whether you are actual Leeds fans, are you? jaucourt @jigzy84 No-one’s questioned Warnock – he’s not even mentioned in the article. Right decision to sack Grayson and let us drift for 4 games, losing two of them to teams we should have beaten? Even Bates said he wished we’d won those, as it’d have put us well into the play-offs. Anything good that comes from the Bates/Harvey axis is more luck than judgement, I think. And it was the fans that wanted Warnock, not Bates. Don’t think for a second that should Redfearn have managed to win these games, we’d have appointed Warnock. It went wrong, the protesters were marching, so he went for a crowd-pleaser (Warnock will sell season tickets, too). Your final point is the only laughable thing in your post, and smacks of nothing more than McCarthyism. Check under your bed for those Commies! TimPM @jigzy84 Hah! Go back to November pre-Speed and I said if Grayson went then Warnock would be the man to appoint. I’m one of the occasional writers on the site. So its not as if “we” refuse to acknowledge anybody made the right or wrong decision. I myself wrote of the somewhat lifeless forum attached to this blog “He’s an excellent choice. I’m Glad Ken has shown his wisdom!” Plenty of people read this blog and they all have the same freedom to debate on the comments section and even to write an article for publication on this site. We’ve had plenty of good debate of late whether it’s been on Ken Bates, Simon Grayson, or Alan Smith or Fab Delph. Diatribes like this are a) ill-informed and b) a waste of everyone’s time including yours. Why don’t you try writing a measured piece on what you think we’re missing about Lorimer and submit it? I’m sure David would happily publish it – he’s published stuff of mine he’s not necessarily agreed with. Tim Campbell @jigzy84 As has already been voiced everyone is entitled to their own opinions on these forums, I for one am glad that we have a talented experienced manager in to fill the void; my point is that if neil redfearn had gotten decent results in his 3 games in charge, he would now most probably be manager. You wax lyrically about ken bates as if he is some Greek god, whereas the truth paints him as something very different. It was most probably his wish to install Redfearn as the next manager; the cheapest option of course. His management of all monies going in and out of Leeds United football club is questionable at best. The majority of those supporters who bates has deluded for so lomg have woken up to that fact. Over the weekend you referred to me and a few others as ‘morons’, a most regretable title given to us by kenneth bates esquire, however a ‘moron’ I would always rather be than a seed from the loin of our chairman mattbb1 i’m sure that lorimer is not alone in his opinions, in fact i’m sure theyre fully vetted and spellchecked by shaun and ken before theyre submitted.. in all seriousness though Mrjinx (i too hate meeses to pieces) i think you’ll find most contibutors on here pretty open minded, i’ve submiited some voewpoints, based on quotes from lorro, and indeed some from another former player. those speak for themselves – perhaps you could do the same prior to dismissing the article? i think most other contributors are more than behind warnock – but neil redfearn cam agonsiingly close to being in charge – when he was clearly not up to it, we are leeds supporters, but apologies for not towing the party line.. keep smiling, i’d consider it the norm for any leeds fan not to tow the line and believe the nonsense coming from our chairman. Tyler75 @jigzy84 Are you Shaun Harvey ? Daveylufc The fact is lorimer feeling the need to say anything at all smacks of unprofessionalism at best. What he was hoping to achieve beyond angering the majority of well informed Leeds fans is beyond me. he would have been best to say nothing at all or maybe the LUST group gathering pace, the marches and dwindling attendances were starting to get to the board more than they would let on. It’s human nature to cover ones own insecurities by highlighting other people’s shortcomings, in this case Simon graysons (alleged) shortcomings. henrymouni @Daveylufc I think the reason Peter L and KB are doing this is because of the fans support of Simon G, which they feel is unfair and biased. I suppose because Simon is a Leeds fan, many fans overlooked his shortcomings. We were going nowhere fast and he had to be sacked. It remains to be seen how Neil goes on, but these are exciting and interesting times. What a difference a week makes! Bishop Matt BB, I think the fact that Lorimer’s ‘in person’ comment to you before the Carlisle game differs so greatly from the style, purpose and content of the articles in the YEP speaks volumes. Surely his input – if he actually has any in those articles – has been heavily revised/edited/guided or even ghost written by the board, or its media henchmen (trying to justify Grayson’s sacking, and twisting the knife in the process). I don’t think Lorimer is guilty of anything other than allowing himself to become a puppet to the board. They’ve recognised that as a ‘Leeds Legend’ there are a group of Leeds fans (enraged comments below) who will stand up for Lorimer no matter what he says. The board have recognised this, and are trying to reassure that core of fans that the board (implying they have some say beyond the Smurf) that they are trying to do something that will help Leeds by using his aura of greatness as a shield from the reality of us being mid-table Championship dross. It would be a great thing to see Warnock turn it around and bring some talent into the squad so that Snodgrass isn’t the only creative player on the field now that Howson has deserted. Hopefully then Lorimer will get a chance to write about success in future, and hopefully his articles will sound a bit more like him, and little less like a corporate media strategy. Until then I think Lorimer should really question why he has allowed himself to become a puppet, and stand up for the club, and supporters, he is rightfully considered a legend by.