Dissident Uprising Seeks Action Plan

Just a thought, but wouldnt it be better if we all petitioned HRMC to reinvestigate KB's dodgy dealings when we went into administration for the second time?

If enough of us kicked up a stink and brought it to the publics attention that HRMC are owed so many millions by Leeds but dont seem to be doing anything about it, it will surely shame them into action.

Then with a good forensic account in place they can begin to unravel the web KB has spun around the ownership of Leeds United. And if underhand dealings are brought to light, it will KB who will be doing porridge for his wrong doing, and not the club who will be punished.

This way we get rid of the cancer once and for all and our club can move on without having that millstone around our neck.

MOT

i will be going as im a s.t holder and he already has his grubby paws on my dosh, what he hasnt got and isnt getting is my s.t money for next year. with this i appeal to all fans when i say do not renew. when this club starts to cost him money he will be gone of that i am certain. he is just riding it out for every penny he can get, as soon as that goes pear shaped we will have rid. the longer we fund the longer he will be here, he would be daft not to.

I agree with the article completely, we need a goal, we need a plan/strategy, we need a leader, & we need action! But as with everything a huge majority must follow to really have an impact, we have to march TOGETHER! People say it will affect the squad, boycotting will look like we've abandoned the club & it will cause unrest. It probably will, but if you look at other teams & squads in this division I honestly think we'll struggle for play-offs, its a hard thing to say, & if we did does anyone think we'd get through? That isn't to say i wouldn't be ecstatic if we did. But looking at how we've performed this season there have been times lady luck (& Snoddy) has carried us. We as fans have experienced ups & downs, we have stood by the club, we have to be some of the most loyal fans in football & no1 is asking us to stop supporting, stop wearing the shirt, stop loving the club! The thing we have to do is communicate to the regime we aren't stupid, we aren't MORONS, we know the money we invest (premiership prices) we know how strong our fan base is, we know we get decent television coverage (for championship), we buy the new shirt every year, we have a rough idea of transfer money in & outs, & we can work out that the investment is in no way proportionate. If Bates actually ran the club like we wanted we'd ignore his excentric rants, the Chelsea ties. But it ain't going too happen. To affect him, we have to impact the club, it's not a nice idea, but honestly what else do we have? Money is the one thing Bates cares about, he ain't interested in our opinion of him that's for sure. Protest to the media, empty Elland road for Bates. Yeah it's not fair on Grayson & the players, but Bates don't fight fair! Least he can't argue it's the few not the many, as we know when he comes under fire from the press himself.

Re. Proposed action for live Sky game against Southampton

"Seven Against Bates" ......How about a seven minute boycott (one for each year of Bates' tenure), everyone stays outside the ground Chanting slogans, etc, and we all make our way into the ground on seven minutes? Cue cameras hopefully get to see large crowds outside the ground and no home fans in it ........embarrassing for Bates if noting else........

a very well written piece. Unfortunately I cannot be present for the meeting but am willing to back the results of the democratic action plan and offer my help where possible. MOT

@TSS That would be great, I'm available at adam_geary@hotmail.co.uk

Agreed. Aside from those that will refuse to renew and the longer he stays, the lower our attendances will drop in my opinion

If Ken was to "kick it" in the morning.... what would happen to our club?

My objection to it is that I've already paid. Bates will find that hysterical, water off a ducks back.

Let's see what the general consensus come up with tomorrow and go from there.

First time on here , so big high five to everyone . I agree we need Bates out he is an excuse of a man , and i'm ashamed he is at the helm of our great club . BUT who will we get in to replace him , that's the 64 ,000$ question . As far as boycotting games i don't get it ? where will we be in 5 years ???? premiership ???? league 2 ????? what i do know is i'll be there , this club doesn't belong to Bates it's ours and no one will stop me from making the pilgrimage . I have a friend whose a Hull supporter , he can't understand what's going on , and can't believe that Leeds supporters could actually be scuppering our chances. What about manure they've the hobbit Glazer in charge they're unhappy ,so i understand , but they still go, what about Liverpool and Hicks / Gillet , Newcastle with Ashley . Yes a Saudi billionaire would be great , but they haven't got the best human rights record so what would the stay away gang do then??? , are we really going to do a character appraisal of the chairman before attending games , and what if we get one of us aka Ridsdale , well we no the rest . Am i naive enough to think we should get back to supporting the team and win lose or draw making the ER experience it used to be . Chatting to a mate the other day i realised just what we've been through in the last 10 or so years , relegationS ,promotion, play off finals, administration , oh and a Champions League semi -final , supporting Leeds is many things but never dull , so keep the faith and for those who define supporting a team as just that i'll see you at the next game , at least until the world stops going round , M O T .

There are many a Churchillian battle quotes on tonight ,god bless us all

Sad though it is unless noone goes at all ever again and i mean everyone he will not listen .

There will be 20+k a week tuesday .lust have a week to rally the troops to get noone to turn up ..

Then what if noone turns up week after week he will default on his rent payments ,so lose the right to play there ,

no money going in will result in redundancies .he will lose money but so will the club and he will wind it up .

I can not tell you how much i hate bates it is really beyond comprehension ,but with all the good intentions of LUST .and others no credible answer to him has come to the fore ,i as i have said only buy match tickets ,nothing else other have stopped going altogether .

i think the answer is to just carry on and ignore him ,do not let him come between us and our club .without the fans he has nothing ,but without the club neither do we .

IT IS OUR CLUB NOT HIS ,WE NEVER ASKED NOR WANTED HIM AT LEEDS, HE HAS NEVER BEEN AND NEVER WILL BE WELCOME FROM THE MAJORITY OF FANS CARRYING ON REGARDLESS IS THE ONLY WAY TO BEAT HIM , HE CRAVES THE ATTENTION AND WE ARE FEEDING HIS HABIT

It is clear the vast majority want Bates out but the issue is how to go about it - lots of opinions but no organisation. I personally want to see positive action. I don't agree it effects the players - They know how bad things are and so does Larry. They know our gripe is not with them. They are professionals and will get on with it - it is their job. If it they are god enough they will secure a lucrative move at the end of their contracts.

I favour the following:

A complete boycott of everything LUFC bar the match ticket.

An identity - red scarfs printed with "Bates Out" and "Why Lie Kenny" - we need to galvanise support - a visible common goal.

Still support the team but let the bastard know what we think - Bates Out from the 7th minute for 7 minutes?

One game boycott ?? - let him know this is serious and we will not accept his administration any longer.

Don't renew - at least until things change.

Whatever we do it must be with one voice - I hope LUST can achieve this

to quote edmund burke - for evil to succeed all it takes is for good men to do nothing - quite apposite i thought as Bates is totally relaint on people shrugging their shoulders and saying - whats it go to do with me - but we the fans have the power to do something - we all have an opportunity here to get shut of Bates and get an investor in who we deserve.

@AGEARY1 Cheers Si, I'm sure I can pull your email from comment. Will get in touch if I'm struggling when the time comes. MOT

after reading the comments and all have good intentions, what we need to do to start with is cut off as many financial avenues for bates as we can. there is no point in screaming bates out at billys statue then getting your breath back with a beer in the pavillion or billys or in the ground. these are all essential income avenues that keep him ticking over. if boycotting the match is a bridge too far then at least dont spend another penny. i myself am a season ticket holder of the last 24 years but sadly this is my last until the current regime relinquishes power, this saddens me as leeds is a big part of my life,but feel i have been whacked with the stick too many times. my advice to people is to stop going and do not renew season tickets. sometimes you have go backwards to go forwards.

Hi all, I've not heard it mentioned for a while, and shoot me down for probably being pie in the sky as I am far from being an expert in high business finance but how about tentatively investigating a global fans buy out? I do realise this is probably very far fetched but before crucifying me, let's first look at some figures........ How much would you surmise the old git would need for him to relinquish the reins? Conservative estimate £30-50m? So say £40m divided by say 65000 fans (10000 season ticket holders, 5000 sometime homers (18yo+), 10 - 15000 regular / UK sometime awayers, 15000 Premiership watchers only, 5000 stayawayers, 5000 foreign sometime (one-time) visitors / non Leeds fans, 10000 foreign non-visting fans) Buying one share would cost each £615. Also you can factor in local / international businessmen, wealthy fans who would probably like to get involved , Any thoughts........?

with all due respect to LUST sadly they are out of touch if they were not there would be the 38.000 in their ranks instead of the bates members club .

What it needs is for the people within the official members club to get together .now i am sure lust members will be lufc members ,well they will if they have season tickets ,but you can not have it both ways ..

.LUST bates will just brush off ,he has many times me too but .regional members club secretaries getting together from the official members club will get him to sit up a little .

sadly LUST you have honorable intentions but you will be wasting your time .

who is the lot at the PEACOCK ???

Good post. Well said Mattbb. I respect those who voice an opinion but we have to be conscious of the players, morale of the team, potential signings and potential investors. Negative vibes have to have an effect on the players, it can't be ignored. Grief has been handed out to players which makes it easier for them (and esp. their agents) to listen when other opportunities come knocking - we don't need this re-occurring. The LUFC brand has value, value we as fans have created and must continue to nurture. It might not feel like it right now but LUFC is ours, the fans. One way or another Bates will eventually be gone. LUFC does feel vulnerable right now so its our responsibility as fans to keep her right. Lets get behind the team, speak as one voice and be conscious not to do too much harm in what we perceive to be the right thing. We wont get a promotion push with negativity flying around so lets get our heads together and give the lads something positive to play for.

Well said. That's the kind of reasoned argument the meeting tomorrow needs.

Was there some mp from Leeds who was making noises a while back about bates ownership of Leeds? He was going to try and take it higher. You could try and get him involved?

90% of 2251? That indicates that at least 91% of the Saturday crowd DID NOT indicate any lack of confidence in Bates. If democracy rules, maybe you should be speaking up for that 91%.

So there's a couple of thousand whingers. This is West Yorkshire, where being miserable is in the blood. Most of those couple of thousand would be unhappy whatever's happening at the club.

I'm not happy, either. I don't think Howson is any great loss - in fact, I think it's a good thing - but I'm worried about the ambition being shown in contractual negotiations. Nevertheless, I'm not seeing any other club in the Championship (except Saints, I suppose) being run significantly better, and most are certainly being run worse. Those who want rid of Bates and/or Grayson don't seem to me to have any idea who would be better, or even that such people exist.