Leeds, Palace and Hull battle it out for Arsenal youngster TSS August 6, 2010 Leeds United 55 Comments Simpson celebrates League Cup goal Arsenal’s 21-year-old striker, Jay Simpson is the latest forward to be linked with a move to Elland Road. It’s claimed that several clubs are in the hunt including Crystal Palace and Hull City. It’s believed some of these clubs – including Leeds – have already agreed a fee with Arsenal, believed to be in the region of £1,300,000 leaving the youngster’s future firmly in his own hands. The 21 year old has had loan spells with Millwall, West Brom and QPR where between them, he’s made 105 appearances scoring 25 goals. Not the most prolific stats, but it should be noted that this includes appearances from the bench and the youngster also plays as a winger. Simpson was highly rated at Arsenal as a youth, making his under-18 debut at just 13 years of age. He was also the first player to score a hattrick at the Emirates in an Arsenal reserve team match against Cardiff City. Despite an impressive youth career, Simpson’s only appearances for the Arsenal first team came in the League Cup where he scored twice in three appearances. With such an overwhelming amount of young talent at Arsenal’s disposal, Simpson has found chances few and far between and is now looking for a permanent home elsewhere. Joe -ipswich leeds i think that because 1.3 million is such a large amount of money for us and this player is unproven it would be too risky to sign him. would prefer a loan from prem or a proven championship striker for that money. TSS Not so sure? He’s played plenty of games elsewhere so we have plenty to go off, and he knocked a couple in for Arsenal in the League Cup so he has got experience. He’s also a good age which is nice to see and makes it a worthwhile investment in my mind. Ryan H It would be a worthwhile investment, but has with Hooper i can’t see us splashing 1.3 mil on just one player. White to the core The sort of player we should be signing. Theres a fee though so unlikely to be true. Its not another to originate from Betfair is it? Dje Hull, Palace and Leeds? I couldn’t think of three Championship clubs less likely to be in a position to fork out £1.3m. Jacko He has pace to burn, think I’d rather risk the possibility of him coming good than have spent similar money on Billy Sharp and already knowing his limits. Dje Because the lad is so young, wouldn’t Arsenal be entitled to ‘development compensation’ even if he joined a team in England on a free next Summer? I wondered if the £1.3m fee agreement was partial to this eventuality rather than us paying the money upfront. ie. we take him on loan for the year and if we like what we see, and can afford £1.3m, then we sign him and agree some payments by installments with Arsenal – if we don’t like what we see we walk away and leave another team to come in and work out compensation for Arsenal. I only ask because of that situation this Summer with John Ledley going to Celtic from Cardiff on a free – because he left england for another football federation (ie. Scotland) Cardiff missed out on the £1.6m compensation they would have got from going to another English club, ie. the proposed move to Stoke. TSS @djedjedje They’d be entitled to it if he left on a free, but he’s a player who will draw a lot of interest so the clever move is to cover your bases and get your money now – even if it is in instalments. I think (and I’m sure you’ll agree) that the best thing about this player is his name. Put an ‘O’ in front of it and he instantly sounds scary! Dje @TSS Too much of a financial commitment for us. I expect us to play the waiting game and hope that the other clubs coming in for him also don’t have the cash or the tempting factor for the lad that Elland Road would have. If this sounds a similar strategy then it should, it reeks of the Hooper (non-)debacle all over again. And we lost that one. Dje Lol – just got your O.J. connection! [I was using the wrong name and was wondering if the IRA or Ulster unionists had a lengendary harman called Jay O’Simpson that I was unaware of] Yep, our/opponent fans could have a field day with his name!! Joe -ipswich leeds yes decent age, but still cant see bates forking out 1.3 million because i dont think that the “fighting fund” exists! Scot Harlow @djedjedje i couldn’t agree more…apart from Pompy, the 3 clubs who are reportedly interested in this player are probably the 3 clubs who could least afford to pay £1.3m on a player (Palace certainly can’t!!) sayin that i’d like to see Jay Simpson at Leeds going on the basis that he’s a simiular player to Beckford ie quick, skillful and not afraid to have a go – and Becchio and Beckford certainly knew how to take a defence apart on their day. i reckon he could get 15+ goals for leeds at this level!? Ollie I think it seems relatively more likely that we would offer around £1m for a player from Arsenal’s ‘golden’ youth system than most other places, plus its not all necessarily upfront. In this video he looks as though he plays a little like Beckford: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35gScGMjab0 Disclaimer: this video contains several images of non Leeds football kits. Dave I cant see us splashing out 1.3 million on a player but if it is true bates must beleive his good enough otherwise he wouldnt be getting his purse out. Joe -ipswich leeds cheers ollie, yes he looks decent but we cant judge a player on a couple of video clips, if so kandol would probally look an amazing player. cant so this move happening unless its a loan with futire possible transfer. Shez Would be an excellent signing and finally a decent shot at a replacement for Beckford. He is strong, athletic, fast and scores goals!! As for his reported “attitude” don’t all decent strikers need an attitude and confidence to score goals. Look at Becks for instance! I think this guy would fit in very well to our team, imagine Watt, Gradel, Sam and Snodgrass (when back from suspension and injury respectively) providing the ammunition for Beccio and Simpson with Paytner when back. Sounds good to me. Would be a hell of a coup. Come on Papa Smurf get that flipping cheque book out and pull out the stops to sign him. As with any footballer signing you don’t pay the fee all at once, it’s stage payments – sometimes you don’t even pay for a year or so. I really don’t think it’s too much to pay int he long-term and I think it’s bloody obvious that Larry is saving any true money outlay for a striker. Wrap it up Leeds then get a defensive midfielder and we have ane excellent team and squad going into the Championship! les irwin 1.3 million is perfect price, this lads stats are not prolific for a player playing at his own club but 1 in 4 for a player who has come from the bench and on loan is not bad his stats got better at qpr when he was playing regularly .to be honest it would be worth a punt on this lad, of the clubs he is being linked with arguably we are the biggest draw apart from that 2 are in london area if your’e asking me we should buy him Dje Good news! The price has dropped to £1.2m. Apparently Simpson might make his mind up as to which club he’s off to “by the weekend”. Better ‘urry up then lad! http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11706_6297297,00.html Joe -ipswich leeds offer accepted, this morning i didnt like the idea now im getting quite excited! Dje @Joe -ipswich leeds Likewise. Let’s hope that Hull remain the only other team (apparently) to have put in a bid. If a grey overcast day in f****** Hull doesn’t put him off going there when he visits their training facilities etc, then they’re welcome to him as he’s obviously blind. pete Hopefully we can get this kid, he’s a future England starter. He’ll tear the championship apart, like Fraizer Campbell did at Dull, but he can make the step up to the premiership because he’s been taught how to play. He just needs a home now…please let it be Leeds, Kenneth. Matt BB This would be an excellent signing. He has a pedigree in the championship already and will only improve. We areup against potless Hull and Crystal Palace. If I was him I know who I’d want to sign for. TheReaper08 All of you concerned about the valuation please note that it has already confrimed that it is a’deal’ worth around 1.3 million, it is not cash up front. Dependant on the clauses that trigger the additional payments I think thsi could be a very good deal. White to the core Cant see ol’ grey beard the retail therapy challenged pirate spending £1.3 million on any player. Unless he can pay it off like a mortgage over 25 years. Besides in case i upset the kenneth ‘norman’ bates fan club on here as usual, the player has stated he wants a move to a london club. Odds 10000- 1. Nevermind its nice to dream, and he is the right age (build for the future) and the gooners rate him. Dje @White to the core I seriously doubt Palace have the money or wage bill to finance a move, so unless QPR do come in for him – the only interest is up north. Depends how much he wants to play football I guess. One thing that might convince Bates to spend the pennies on Simpson is that he is likely to be worth more than £1.3m in a season or two. So it is as much of an investment as the silly casino and Travelodge he’s building at Elland Road. The downside though is how much Arsenal want to include as a ‘sell-on’ clause as part of any deal. Tim Wilsom Judging by that video he looks pretty sharp, I won’t hold my breath but would like this one. TSS @leedsusa Arsenal fans rate him, and given the amount of talent they’ve seen come through over the years, I reckon they’d be able to spot potential. Max. The price is probably 1.3m paid in small instalments over a fairly long period and with conditions attached, so that it’s not that different from signing a player on a free. Probably good business on all sides. Hull and CP don’t have any money either. If I were him, all things being equal, I’d sign for Leeds, but it may also come down to pay, contract and chance of 1st team football (and QPR are not so poor in terms of the money they could offer both Arsenal and the player). Grella won’t be happy if he comes though. White to the core Re Grella, i was thinking the same thing. Colin Having played for QPR on loan previously, I think they’re in the driving seat and big tool Neil ‘Sheff Utd are the biggest club in Yorkshire’ Warnock hasn’t really spent any decent money yet. However, if it is as Reaper says, a deal made up on installments and future payments, then that sounds like a Ken Bates arrangement. There’s nothing Ken likes more than paying on HP. ‘Why pay today when you can pay tomorrow!!’ Simpson’s relationship with Sanchez Watt might have something to do with it if Leeds are successful. Watt knows what Leeds are really about – I’m sure Jay has spoken to him about this. I’d don’t rate CP or Hull’s chances of getting him. Dje @colin QPR bought Taarabt from Spurs the other day for £1.1m. Hopefully that puts a dent in their incoming player transfer budget. TSS @djedjedje Yeah, I imagine the billionaire owners of QPR are scraping the pennies together after that one! Dje @TSS Knowing a few QPR fans, they’d probably agree with you. It’s been two years now since Ecclestone, Briatore and Mittal took over QPR and they’re still yet to really push for promotion through paying to bring in the better players, I’m not that convinced that they are about start now with Simpson. Having said that, it is comforting to know that the owners do actually have SOME money! You’d have to say that Simpson having been to QPR on loan already, and wanting to stay around London would make them look like the likely candidate to get him – but then there’s the Warnock factor to counter-balance it. He wasn’t there when Simpson was, and Warnock can be a right stickler for the type of player he wants to get. I’ve just read an artcile by him in The Independent today about the various teams in the Championship and what their prospects are this season, and when he came around to his QPR he stressed that the importance for him was to bring in players who would instantly bond and bring together a team spirit. If Simpson has an ego/trouble-maker badge pinned to his label then Warnock might take one of his legendary dislikes to the lad. Here’s hoping. les irwin for all their money remember they still employed dowie and.hart to manage them and for all that they are not said to be 1 of the front runners to go up .warnock will make em hard to play against though .went down there to watch us play them last time around what a shite ground too Colin 25 players rule might have forced Arsenal’s hand to do a deal on Simpson – if you’re on a club’s books and you’re 21 or over (and Simpson is 21) then if you’re not in the 25 then you can’t play for your club. Simpson won’t make it into Arsenal’s 25. That means he can’t play for Arsenal but is still picking up a wage. Might as well let some of them go if they’re not close to the 25. Colin Adam Clayton, 20, just joined Leeds on month’s loan from Man City Dje Hopefully not the aging bass player for U2. Craig Hopefully Grayson “still hasn’t found what he’s looking for” – a Striker! shez Didn’t see that one coming. I’ll be honest, I’ve never heard of him! Do remember vaguely that Carlisle had some hard nut in midfield in the JPT game who kept fouling our players, so prob was him!! Why only a month though?! Was expecting news on Jay Simpson. Fingers crossed on that one. Craig I’m assuming Clayton is the short-term Snodgrass replacement – but is he a winger? les irwin adam clayton played well for carlisle last term although don’t know what he will do in a month wanted a signing today but not that one really although welcome to him wanted simpson hope we can get him on a permanent deal he is one of them that we should sign on 3/4 year deal with a view to him progressing at 21 he is of a good age les irwin has to be said wenger is a poor judge of player LOL LOL LOL Craig I habve to say that I’ve been confused on all things transfer-related but am wondering whether Phil Hay’s excellent interview with Grayson in the YEP (http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/leedsunited/Leeds-United-Marching-on-together.6459942.jp) sheds some light. I was totally confident that Larry was protecting his transfer pot (money from cup run, Delph etc) to use in the summer. Now, after reading the article it seems that Grayson has noticed that other teams aren’t spending big (“the climate doesn’t seem to be right”) and that the only team who are spending (Middlesbrough) have “created a lot of expectancy. They’ll be favourites for the title and they have to live up to that tag.” Grayson would clearly prefer to be managing a dark horse this year and, after last season, who’d blame him? Assuming the money is there (a big assumption – but it has to be somewhere!), I wonder whether Grayson realised the name LEEDS UNITED was a bigger draw than most other Championship clubs and could attract enough good players for free and simply saw no point in spending cash for the sake of it since other clubs weren’t buying either. The other factor is: how many players do you bring in before the job of knitting them together becomes too big for the pre-season period? Having said all this, it seems (from the limited snippet of the LUTV interview available on the club website) that Grayson is still expecting new arrivals after the Derby game. A player like Simpson would fit the bill nicely for all the reasons already mentioned – but where did that rumour come from? Dje The rumour is from Simpson’s agent, Uden Gray, I imagine. I just hope we aren’t being used to encourage interest from a lacspidsical QPR for the lad. The hopes have arisen! Craig Given your recent prod at TSS for his ‘innocent typos’ I thought I couldn’t let ‘lacspidsical’ go without comment Dje!!!! It ought to be a word but it isn’t! Dje @craig lol – I thought those typos comments would comeback to haunt me! I don’t know what happened there actually, as I spelt it wrong and different first time around, and then selected “lacspidsical” (a fantastic monstrosity of a non-word!) from my browser’s dictionary. But now my browser is denying any knowledge of such word. You’re right too, it should be a word, just not sure how the hell to say it! TSS Haha, well spotted @craig! Good to see the Grammar Police are out in force! Craig Well, I used to say to my children when they were young: “Say it as it sounds”! pete So, we’ve gained a midfield nutter on a month’s loan…anyone else see that as a way to get him registered to play tomorrow then sort out the actual transfer early next week? If we sign Simpson as well, that would all of a sudden change our transfer activity from ‘ signing for consolidation’ to ‘signings that show ambition’ jacko After reading all the reviews on Jay Simpson from Gunners fans, I really hope we get this lad. Seems alot of there fans really rate him and think he might well still make it at the highest level, but will struggle with the amount of quality Arsenal have on the books! Tim the White If we can’t afford him then the Toothless Tigers certainly won’t be able to!! It would be nice to bring in a young player with the class to command a fee for a change. By the way all should read the in depth Daily Mail article on KB. You will find it on newsnow leedsunited. Dje Just noticed Hull boss, Nigel Pearson, admitting that they aren’t in a position to bring players in due to their financial uncertainty (read as ‘imminent administration’). Hopefully that is them out of the equation then! Dje … forgot the link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/h/hull_city/8893030.stm? Max Last week, alternative (more likely) reports had it that the other team who had had a bid accepted were Glasgow Rangers. Dje @Max Again, another team short of money to burn – but I could see them offering him the wages he’d like more than we would. Perhaps the biggest point in our favour here is that he doesn’t want to leave London then he definitely wont want to leave it for Glasgow.