TSS, flying the flag for England

I’ve laid off the World Cup updates for the last couple of days because, quite frankly, words fail me.

After another dismal performance from the England team, we were left with one game to decide how early our flight home will be. A game against Slovenia no less. A team we’d usually beat as routine, but after a storming qualification campaign where England finished as top goal-scorers in Europe, the usual media nonsense has led to in-fighting and a desperate attempt from players to undermine the manager’s authority.

The usual “superstars” are involved of course, led by none other than disgraced former captain, John Terry. Wherever there’s trouble, John Terry never seems to be too far behind. His entire career has been marred by controversy, arrogance, selfishness and egomania. A thug on the pitch, and not much nicer off it. Whoever thought it was a good idea to take this self-obsessed idiot to the World Cup after his constant attempts to upset team harmony wants shooting.

Anyone who has ever been in a position where they managed a group of people will tell you that things like the Terry/Bridge incident aren’t forgotten quickly. Even if Bridge isn’t in the squad, many of the lads that are will be his friends. They’ll hold grudges against Terry that will surface in times of turmoil, much like what seems to be happening at the moment.

Terry’s impromptu gathering of players to slate the manager not only undermines Fabio Capello, but it also undermines the authority of captain, Steven Gerrard. Furthermore, the fact that there was only a handful of players in attendance, shows the rest of the squad don’t have the respect for Terry he wishes they did.

Make no mistake, there’s a divide in the squad, and it’s no surprise Terry is at the centre of it.

So to summarise our campaign so far, the team failed miserably against the Yanks and Algerians. In a desperate bid to find an excuse, some turned on Capello. Unsurprisingly, the arrogant, troublesome bully that is John Terry, was the first to go public – no doubt spurred on by the loss of his captaincy and sulking because his South African holiday isn’t all he expected. The manager is then forced to respond, escalating the situation further. Meanwhile, back home, the papers are having a field day tearing apart yet another manager because of the arrogance of our supposedly “senior” players. And the solution is… Bring back the WAGS! Words truly fail me.

Another World Cup ruined by the pettiness of our squad and the media nonsense that enables it all.

So, tonight, Spain look to right the wrongs of their campaign so far as they meet Honduras in Cape Town. Tomorrow, Mexico meet Uruguay in Johannesburg, and Wednesday, England will meet the French squad at the airport – Always finish on a joke. The English team certainly seem intent on doing so.

  • Matt BB

    @TSS bob on mate, managing an egotist like terry is done one way. Make an example of him, gerrard’s the captain and you just know terry is smarting still about that. Capello however is an honourable, experienced manager if the fa dont back him, expect him to walk, arguments and disagreements with your staff take place behind closed doors, terry’s crossed the line and capello deserves a medal for not kicking him out.

  • TheReaper08

    I refer to the post I just made in article ‘The Three Lions cowering under pressure’

    John Terry is a scumbag, always has been always will be.

    • timm

      Totally agree Reaper. The guy’s an absolute scumbag. He’s on something like 140k a week & he’s trying to sell training ground tours on the side for some extra cash! Send him home Fabio. At this point i feel i should delare that im a Scotland supporter but i always want England to do well.

  • Matt BB

    Absolutely, if i was his boss he’d have been binned.

  • les irwin

    do we think this is a deliberate mutiny on the england squad with terry firstly getting his own back on capello for firing him as captain and secondly to all the none chelsea fans who support england who booed him up and down the country when he was sacked is it that deliberate .if so he then should be sent home with all his mates .there is something clearly wrong and i do believe cappello has to take some responsibility for that his team selections have been poor and joe cole should be playing and i also believe it is too prison like on none playing days they should be enjoying it clearly they are not !.why is heskey not on a family holiday in malaga instead of playing for england in a world cup ???? he is RUBBISH .i had high hopes for england in the world cup i went to some qualifiers at wembley but if this world cup ending in disaster by means of us getting knocked out wednesday by slovenia ,brings an end to some england careers so we can start again for euros then so be it ,i think that squad would do well to get into the champions league places in prem and we expect em to win a world cup are we deluded ??

    • TheReaper08

      @number1inyorkshire It’s difficult to tell if it’s team selection as in essence this is the same starting 11 that waltzed the group stages. There are players in that starting team that you and I wouldn’t pick but for me the reason we are where we are is because the players just haven’t performed.

  • Matt BB

    Its not a holiday, it’s their job, for 50k a week i’d put up with their… Troubles.

    • les irwin

      50k have they lost a 2thirds of their wages more like 150.000 per week some of em anyway

    • les irwin

      i also said why is he not on holiday ,not he is on holiday

      • Matt BB

        Yes I saw that, but i think my point is a genuine one, it always winds me up when you hear of players representing their team at the world cup moaning about how they dont get to see their wives and girlfirends or how it isnt fun. Thats why we lose world cups, Italy and Brazil behave badly on their ummer holidays, our playwers seem to think this is some sort of junket provided by the FA.

        They have achieved a real honour representing England at the world cup but its in simple terms footballs greatest honour to win it, I wish they understood that, they seem to care more about the blooming champions league.

    • timm

      On the subject of holidays, Neil Kilkenny was on my flight back from Spain last week. I can exclusively reveal that he was dividing his time between his extremely attractive female partner & a copy of Four Four Two magazine!

      • TheReaper08

        @timm Quality, Did you grab a word ? I once met Michael Ricketts at Los Angeles airport, I wanted to tell him just how crap he is but bottled it.

        • Matt BB

          You’d have got away with that with the rickmeisters lightning reflexes. With a 40 minute wait lets say for your plane, he would have had to have put down his fast food, cleaned himself up, caught his breath and then taken a swing for you, i reckon thats a clear hour.

        • les irwin

          i once met colina in spain at the airport it was when we were in champions league he noticed my leeds top and the only thing he said was “that alan smith is a bad boy “and waved his finger at me .

        • timm

          No, i thought about it but i was still technically on holiday, so i didn’t really want some footballer bothering me!! It was a bit weird really, i’d just said to my wife ‘i wonder if i’ll see any players heading back from their holidays’ & literally 2 minutes later he came & sat on the seat right next to me! He was all over his girlfriend & i think he must’ve caught me looking at her because he looked at me like he wanted to hit me! Nice to see him flying on a classless budget airline though. I once met Ally McCoist at an airport & he was great, everyone was asking him about football stuff so i said i’d heard he was a big Bruce Springsteen fan! (which he is) I think i took him by surprise, & we talked about Bruce for 10 minutes & didn’t mention footy once!

      • Matt BB

        Australians eh? sport mad? I suppose he reached for the sick bag as he read news of his teams latest performance..

  • Tim Wilsom

    It will be interesting to see if we put in a performance on Wednesday. Somebody needs to fire the camp up, Gerrards hand clapping isn’t working.

  • Matt BB

    I think the team capello put out was capable of beating algeria, so i dont see why people are questioning his tactical nous, or selection, gerrard is a club captain so is more than capable of the job. When our team stopped playing the answer had to come from within, larry had to deal with beckford, and capello needs to take some weight off rooneys shoulders, and perhaps make him realise there are 11, playing, a spell on the subs bench maybe?

  • Colin

    And Capello has now come out and said John Terry made a ‘big mistake’

    here’s the exclusive ITV video (together with annoying adverts):

    http://www.itv.com/sport/football/fifaworldcup/news/capellolaysdownthelawtoterry/

  • Scratching Shed

    @Colin A ‘big mistake’ indeed, but no indication as to whether he’ll be dropped. I reckon if it wasn’t for Rio’s injury, JT would be on the next flight home.

    • Matt BB

      a big mistake yes – but capello is stooping to JT’s level by admonishing him in the press. I agree JT may however suffer an injury in training..

  • Colin

    I’ve got a few thoughts on this –
    1 – i’m going to defend John Terry – he came out publicly, took the rap and said the performance wasn’t good enough. You can say what you want about him – scumbag, money grabber, over-rated etc, but you can’t say that he doesn’t give his all for Chelsea and England. What he said was open, genuine and honest and not the usual bull-shit that comes out of the England camp – Fabio thought we played well against USA and were unlucky, and that you have to give credit to Algeria for playing well.

    2 – Capello said Terry made a big mistake in going public. Okay, if he’s such a great manager then he must know if he’s a bit of a loose cannon – so why let him go out to an official England press conference with an FA representative? Why not send Gerrard out there? Unless it’s been setup to let Terry take some of the pressure off the team? Or if it was a surprise to Capello that Terry came out with those words in the press conference and it’s such a big mistake, then why not send him home?

    Personally, I don’t see how anyone can have a go at Terry – he hasn’t said anything that we didn’t all think.

    • TheReaper08

      @Colin Do you always say what you feel or do you think it necessary to sometimes bite your tongue ? i mean I often think my boss is an idiot but I never tell him that nor do I seek to vent my feelings publicly.

      I think Capello had every right to expect that a former Captain who should be seeking to regain the Captainship one day would come out and toe the line. By all means tell us the performance was poor but to question selection and try and gather momentum for your rebellion is a cheap shot.

      I have two points, firstly I have been told that Terry tried to muster support for his ‘let’s go tell the manager what we think’ campaign and couldn’t muster anyone of worth to support him, tell you something ?

      Secondly did you see how hard Lamps tried to distance himself from it and make excuses for Terry,

      Thankfully it would seem as usual Terry is the lone bad apple.

      • Colin

        Reaper – I agree your boss is an idiot, but me, John Terry and Talk sport are about to go into a press conference to sort it out right now.

        Leave it to me. Within a matter of days you’ll be working for Harry Rednapp :)

        • TheReaper08

          @Colin Cheers mate, couldn’t squeeze me a pay rise whilst your at it.

          On the JT thing I think if he had left it with addressing the performance issues which I agree was refreshing then I wouldn’t have had an issue with him. It wasn’t necessary to name drop players as I think it’s disrespectful to the other squad members.

  • Tim Wilsom

    Well hopefully they will come out on Wednesday with a point to prove. It’s last chance time. Stuff respect it’s time to bleed

  • Chris Moulson

    Hi all,new on…..I’ve never liked Terry as an individual. Im not doubting for England and Chelsea he works hard,but the guy has no moral compass,he believes everything he does and says is right and i would love it if we could afford to make an example of him and send him home…I don’t know if he is set on sabotage within the camp but as reaper said (and i agree)”it wasn’t necessary to name drop players” and what was said on talk sport this afternoon when they said”he wouldn’t want to see Steven Gerrard lift the world cup”…. well, you wouldn’t like to think thats the case but look what he did to his so called best mate…

    • TheReaper08

      @leeds13 Hello, good evening and welcome. I think part of the problem is Terry still can’t make the connection between his personal problems (Bridge) and the removal of him as Captain, it has made him quite bitter I think.

      I too don’t doubt his comittment on the pitch it’s just he has got a little too up himself and full of self importance for my liking.

      • Chris Moulson

        Thanks for the welcome….let’s just hope we have a good game wednesday,get to see another England game this weekend(preferably saturday) and let’s hope we can forget about it and do what we always do with english football gaffs put em dvd at christmas

  • TheReaper08

    @leedsusa You live in the states mate or is there some other reason for the name ?

  • Tim Wilsom

    Live in the States. An won’t hear the end of it if the yanks progress and England don’t. This may or may not have been a good way to approach things, Terry may rue the moment, but the camp couldn’t be damaged any worse than it already is. The standard” we’ll take the positives from the last game” isn’t going to cut it this time as there hasn’t been any so far.

    • Incontinentia Buckets

      I’m in the same boat with Socceroo’s fans, but at least it looks less likely they’ll progress than the States. I’ve particularly enjoyed watcing Aussie reaction to New Zealands better than expected progress, it’s a rivalry to match England-Scotland and the Aussies just don’t know how to react at the moment; priceless.

      I’m utterly sick of the ‘Golden Generation’ and Terry in particular, trying to blame another manager. They’re on their third one now, all with different styles, and they’re still in denial that the problem is themselves and their piss-weak psyche’s and mediocre technical abilities. Send Terry home NOW, Carragher will be available to provide cover IF we get to the next round. And between now and the next Euro’s get rid of the rest of the GG – Lampard, Gerrard, Ferdinand. I’m sick of these egotistical, preening, indulged, narcissists ruining my summer every two years since the late nineties. Rant over !
      I see Blackwell’s in the news ‘unsure of Sharp’s future'; are we still in with a shout there ? Good idea ?

  • Ian Burrill

    Did anyone actually watch his interview?

    Or did you just form an opinion on hear say and what the papers quoted.

    I’ve just watched it on the BBC and he said nothing untoward he never said that he wanted changes and he never said he had no faith in Cappello and his ways. He was honest and forthright but not rebellious.

    Please take the time to watch it and re evaluate the things. I’m no great fan of John Terry but I can’t find any reason for the witch hunt thats begun because of this interview.

    It seems to me that it’s the press trying to stir up a bit of crap to make headlines and build more crap on hearsay and un-names sources. ALL BULLSHIT!

    • Chris Moulson

      I’m sorry but I have to disagree…I’ve seen the. Interview although he claims to be behind the manager and gives his full support,he shouldn’t be commenting on players he thinks shouild be in the team,he isn’t the voice of England anymore,he gave up that right by being a tool,leave team moral speaches and team selections to the captain and coach. Its not a witch hunt,he did it to himself…..

    • Scratching Shed

      @tonycurriescurler I linked to it above mate. My first thought was why is it Terry and not Gerrard doing the interview, shortly followed by, why is Terry holding impromptu team meetings with the players. Then he whinges about lack of free-time etc… “If the manager doesn’t like it, so what?” C’mon TCC, he’s a dick.

      • TheReaper08

        @TSS They all get rolled out to do interviews at some stage, as I mentioned earlier as the former Captain and someone who should be looking to re-acquire the role surely he would be ideal to do an interview.

      • Craig Millward

        @TSS My thoughts exactly TSS but TCC has got a point. If Terry hadn’t brought ‘history’ to this World Cup that interview would have passed under the radar with no backlash. I don’t like John Terry but I’m trying to keep my personal feelings out of this issue.

        I don’t understand why it wasn’t Gerrard being interviewed but maybe its because he’s not up to the job. People mention the fact that he’s the Liverpool captain as if that somehow QUALIFIES him for the England captaincy – judging by LFC’s recent performances maybe Gerrard is one of the weak links.

        By all standards JT’s tactics (to take disquiet straight to the manager) was both honourable and wise because it nips ill-feeling in the bud. As I see it his only mistake was to inform the press what was going to happen in advance of the meeting and allow himself to be drawn into mentioning individual players. If Gerrard was up to the job of England captain this would never have happened and the press wouldn’t have yet another self-generated storm to get all self-righteous about.

      • Craig Millward

        @TSS maybe there is a direct link between the amount of free time and the impromptu team meetings – if a team that isn’t playing well has hours of rest time forced on it, what is BOUND to happen? They are going to begin talking at length and those conversations are bound to lead somewhere.

        • Scratching Shed

          @TheReaper08 @Craig I think my biggest problem is that we all know this wouldn’t have happened with Shearer or Beckham in the team. For all their faults, they led the team well, kept the press under control and kept morale high. Terry just causes trouble time and again. He isn’t that good it’s worth all this nonsense.

  • Craig Millward

    In the light of Reaper’s point made since I began the last post I should add: “I don’t understand why it wasn’t Gerrard being put forward for interview AT THIS TIME AND ABOUT THIS SPECIFIC ISSUE.

  • TheReaper08

    @Craig So his only mistake was informing the press publicly instead of quietly seeking out the manager which incidentally makes him dishonourable and unwise, and name dropping players, does kind of cement the position of those that are against Terry on this issue.

    Just so I am clear on my own position if it had come out after the WC that JT had approached the manager quietly to discuss these issues I wouldn’t have a problem, at the moment though we just look like a scaled down version of France.

    • Craig

      @Reaper08 I’m not sure ‘informing the press’ is quite what happened – as if it was a kind of Press Statement. John Terry answered a series of questions fully and frankly during which he alluded to a forthcoming meeting.

      This was stupid and probably the result of an over-inflated ego but I stand by my conviction that much of the storm has been created by those who already had it in for John Terry – which, in turn is a price JT has to pay for his reckless, heartless and traitorous behaviour with Wayne Bridge’s girlfriend in the run-up to this tournament.

      I’m not defending the guy, just trying to regain some kind of perspective.

  • Craig

    Judging from the LUFC website Danny Mills makes a similar point:

    “All he’s done is come out with an opinion that Joe Cole is a good player who can unlock defences,” Danny told Yorkshire Radio.
    “Everyone knows it, and all of a sudden he’s been accused of picking the team. We’ve got three players who can do that, Joe Cole, Wyane Rooney, and Steven Gerrard, and two of them have obviously been playing.
    “He’s had the courage to come out and say that things aren’t right and for me every player should be entitled to voice their opinion. If the manager doesn’t agree he doesn’t agree and you get on with it.
    “John Terry was the England captain and could still well be England captain so why shouldn’t he have the right to an opinion?
    “John Terry is passionate, he wants things to be right. I’ve read that it’s mutiny in the camp…for goodness sake, that won’t be the case in the slightest.”

    Doesn’t make me right of course and I’m sure the debate will go on…

    • TheReaper08

      @craig I know your not defending him as such and I totally respect your opinion. I am told that Terry doesn’t have the respect of all the players so I don’t think it’s his place to make comments like that. He should absolutely have the courage to voice his opinion and I respect that but it should be done in private,

      My opinion could of course have a lot to do with the fact I think he is an egotistical snake and that I think there are ulterior motives at play here.

  • pete

    At least we don’t have Torres at the moment, he doesn’t look like he could score if he had all night.

    If only we had someone like David Villa to take the pressure off Rooney…

    • TheReaper08

      @pete I don’t think there is currently a barn door big enough anywhere in the world for Torres to hit right now. I think it will be short lived though as when he get’s his eye in I expect him to bag a few, class is permanent and all that.

      Agree about someone decent to support Rooney although I think Defoe could do a job there.

  • Matt BB

    look, anything would be an improvement on heskey in a free roaming role up front, which seemed to be what was happening on Friday. My view is probably what the tabloids all espouse. Gerrard supports Rooney, and cole out on the left, drop Heskey. If Crouch and defoe can come on in cameo roles at thend that would be brialliant. For me our weakest link was barry who didnt put a pass right, and left lampard totally exposed. I’d think about carrick in that role.

    Though for me I’d leave terry out of the lineup altogether and play Barry and dawson as the central pairing, his presence is an issue. As per TSS if you manage a group of people and have a bad apple even when they apologise and promise to behave generally they dont, they need to be dealt with firmly.

    I think you’re roght reaper we are currently a scaled down version of France, but our coach isnt a nincompoop father ted lookalike who needed cheating to qualify. We qualified well and until John Terry was informed that playing away with fellow team mates on off girlfriends wasnt right we were doing alright, Capello gave him his chance and he messed it up.

  • Matt BB

    i think youre right, not roght by the way reaper, cant we get a spellcheck on this TSS!

    • TheReaper08

      @mattbb This might sound odd coming from me (king of the spelling mistake) but I don’t want a spell checker, TSS is slowly teaching me to review my writing instead of relying on spelling and gramatical checks by a computer.

      On everything else in your post, spot on !

  • Colin

    Capello’s trying to play hard ball with Terry.

    Capello said that Terry had made a big mistake and that he shouldn’t have spoken out in public, but he should have spoken to the manager himself and kept his thoughts in the camp.

    And how did Capello let us know about this? By going public and giving a video interview to ITV telling us how team matters should be between players and the manager and not done publicly. So why didn’t Capello keep it behind closed doors??

    • TheReaper08

      @colin Probably because it was already out in the public domain, you can’t really deny it ever took place and as figurehead of the team the press are going to be digging to see if Capello show’s any sign of weakness. He didn’t show any for me, instead he put Mr Terry back in his box.

    • Matt BB

      Yes totally agree, JT needs to be put in the shade. Left out of team discussions, and out of the lineup. But capello needs to lead by example. I can understand he was angry and needed to show everyone he meant business, but I dont like him stooping to JT’s level. Maybe the language barrier is affecting him and a more anglocentric manager would have said that he and john terry should have kept the matter private, and thats what they are doing now.

  • Matt BB

    i actually wonder wheter, as an italian capello just doenst `get’ how self centred and selfish english players are when it comes to the world cup? He’s won it as a player in 1982, he’s then gone on to manage some superb players whove also won world cups ant real madird and Roma, i wonder if thats the problem? well the answers simple he needs to keep on doing what hes doing, what we paid him to do, get our team to think and play differently.

  • TheReaper08

    @mattbb I think he is used to proffesionals and winners, his only real experience of English players is Beckham. When Capello arrived at Real Madrid he marginalised Beckham as he saw him as more of a circus than a football player. Beckham went down the training field and trained like a man posessed for weeks in an attempt to convince him that he was good enough. It worked and they have remained close ever since.

    Capello probably thought he couldn’t lose as England manager if everyone had Beckham’s attitude.

    • Incontinentia Buckets

      Hi Reaper, I’m pretty sure Beckham was marginalised by the Real club president (name escapes me) who needed a scapegoat. Rest of your post is true though – Beckham worked his nuts off and Capello saw the value.

  • Matt BB

    Got to be it hasnt it? Note how the likes of Mourhino havent come knocking on Terry’s door to join them at inter, while gerrard, lampard and even ashley cole do get linked, and Beckham by virtue of his attitude could still walk into most of the top italian and spanish sides. Capello must just not be able to understand our self obsessed players, and they should be ashamed of that.

  • pete

    Maybe it is different to him then? He’s won it after all, first time at it too if I’m not mistaken. He knows what it’s like to hold the trophy, and maybe in trying to get the players ready by using an Italian way of describing the feeling, he’s putting the fear of god into our key players.

    I can’t help feeling that Lampard is the key – he’s as influential for Chelsea as he is ineffectual for England.

    Still, at least we’re not France…

  • Si

    John Terry did the press conference because it was John Terry’s turn. They have a rota and it was his turn.
    The guy has an EGO beyond belief. He is a scum bag from a scumbag family and always will be – send him home, i would rather go out on Wednesday than get through to the next stage with a sewer rat in our back 4. He will no doubt clear one off the line in the last minute against the Germans in the next round and heaven forbid he will be a bloody hero!!
    I would rather we were out of the competition than have to watch him wearing an England shirt. He isnt fit to wear it and that’s that i am afraid. All of this upheaval and disscontent started with him, i would imagine other than the Chelsea contingent, there isn’t anyone in the England team that really wants to play along side the man is there?

    Police in South Africa have reported a massive upturn in theft and the sale of drugs since the World Cup started. Officials are not too concerend though and expect things to settle down once John Terry and his family head back to the UK :0)

  • Colin

    If I was the captain of the team that just won the Premier League and ex captain of England, and I saw the team playing like that, and knowing it’s my last chance to win a world cup and saw the vice England captain (Rio was first choice) shitting his pants and not facing up to the manager or fans, then I think I’d probably have a pop at the manager and some of my team mates as well.

    Whatever the manager is doing, it’s not working. Those players don’t turn that bad overnight. Maybe they need an arm around their shoulder in a way that Robson or Venables would have done. I don’t think shouting and disciplining players in a World Cup makes them any better. That might work at club level, but at WC level, the pleyers you have ain’t going to get any better by shouting at them. I don’t think Gazza or Lineker would have responded to being given a rollocking.

    I like the way Rooney’s avoided getting any stick on this board for having a pop at loyal support booing your own players – ah loyalty – i know what that is – that’s sticking to your team and working with them to make them better. Wazza is still at Everton isn’t he??

    • Incontinentia Buckets

      But Craig we’ve tried the ‘warm and fuzzy’ approach with Steve McLaren’s first-name-terms management style and Sven’s Wags-Handbags-Roasting-is-OK approach in Baden Baden 4 years ago. It obviously didn’t work well enough because he was sacked. This same bunch of players will next cost us the best manager of the lot (‘cos the players never get sacked) and we’ll end up with Harry Brown Envelopes Redknapp. God help us. It’s the players’ ego’s (caused by club fans and the media blowing smoke up their arses), Sky’s money, and the fundamentally flawed UK coaching system at fault.

  • Colin

    and if we got rid of England players who had skeletons in their closet and not been squeaky clean then we wouldn’t have Gerrard, Rio, Lampard, Glen Johnson, Ashley Cole, Rooney or John Terry in the squad!!

  • Tim Wilsom

    Yep, what Colin said.

    Slightly off topic, but Terry taps some slapper off the clock and loses the captaincy, fine. Rio refuses a drug test on the clock and is banned from football but regains said captaincy.

    • TheReaper08

      @leedsusa It’s because Fabio adopts a not on my shift policy, in light of Colin’s list of players with previous it’s probably a very good idea he does !

  • pete

    @leedsusa Rio’s got previous on and off the clock, and yet he’s the captain.

    If it was done on integrity and keeping your nose clean as well as ability, which it should be, we wouldn’t have anyone left to give the armband too. Anyone who deserves it? Nobody I can think of. Gareth Barry seems to be a model pro, apart from the fact he tried to use the press to force a move away from the club that made him the player he is.

    @colin you left out Carragher throwing coins at Arsenal fans and Ledley King’s racial slurs at bouncers. Seems that our defenders have a problem with behaving…

  • pete

    Thank you Mr. Defoe…why weren’t you playing from the start of the USA game?

  • TheReaper08

    I would just like to go on record now and say that for the attempted diving block thing that John Terry did I forgive him everything, priceless.

    Come on England !

    • Colin

      Absolutely amazing Superman dive!
      Enjoy it here:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9dey8AVk5I

      Though he’s going to need to pull off even more superhero moves if we meet German! Gulp!

      And I loved the slow mo that captured David James after the heroic defensive move (i think it was about 3 blocks in all) – you just saw him say “F’ing superb”

    • Chris Moulson

      @TheReaper08… I totally agree,he grafted like mad and looked strong but I still would let him be my postman

  • Colin

    Let him be your postman. But get worried if he becomes your milkman :)

    • Tim Wilsom

      Let him be your postman. But get worried if he becomes your milkman

      :) Give him the armband

  • Colin

    In all honesty, although England will struggle and I don’t think we’ll get enough goals and do get tired, I do think we may have one of the best defences in this competition. Ashley Cole and Glen Johnson do look like the best full/wing backs IMHO.

    Maybe just maybe…

  • pete

    Right, now all we need to do is stop Ozil from weaving his merry web on Sunday to cut off the supply line to Klose, Podolski and Muller, score at least two, and prepare for Argentina.

    Simple?

  • Craig

    What do we all think about the 7 Brazilian trialists? My mind is boggling at what might happen if all 7 impress and there is nothing to choose between them!

    • Scratching Shed

      @craig I remember the last Brazilian we had at ER. With that in mind, I aren’t getting my hopes up!