Does Tres' move to Scunthorpe pave the way for Hoops to join Leeds? TSS June 19, 2010 Leeds United 35 Comments Elland Road bound? Tresor Kandol today agreed a deal to join Scunthorpe United on the 1st of July when the summer transfer window opens. Tres’ final game for Leeds United will be one he hopes to forget. After entering the field as a substitution in a crucial game against Norwich, Tres was sent off just 20 seconds later. That result ultimately paved the way for Norwich City to secure the League One title, whilst Leeds had to battle on to the final day. Kandol was never again included in the squad by Simon Grayson. It’s hard not to link Tres’ move to Scunthorpe with Gary Hooper’s future. Scunny are already resigned to losing their star-striker, and Leeds United have been touted as potential suitors for the last couple of seasons. Scunthorpe are clearly covering their bases for Hooper’s eventual exit, but have Leeds United played their cards cleverly by engineering Tres’ transfer as a sweetener in a deal to bring Hooper the other way? Leeds are still desperately lacking in fire power after Jermaine Beckford and Tresor Kandol’s exits. Billy Paynter has come in, but is unlikely to replace Jermaine’s 30 goals a season, nor will Luciano Becchio or Mike Grella. Gary Hooper then, would be the ideal replacement. Unfortunately, until the 1st of July we can only speculate. Instead, let us enjoy the man, the myth, the legend that is TK20. Good luck Tres – Your dance moves will be missed! Craig Millward You have a good point TSS. The very fact that we are talking to Scunthorpe must give an the inside track. “…and by the way Mr Chairman, the lad Hooper… we think he’s rather good…” Jonathan This validates the Hooper rumours somewhat as it means we are speaking to Scunny. Hopefully this means that we are going to sign Hooper, although Kandol is going on a free. paul oshea Just realised Tres says sub bench, I thought it was sub bitch on the TV henry vincent lewis It is a lovely dream TSS!! Henry. craig1919 Think you must have read my mind TSS as this is the exact same conversation I was having last night after learning of the Tres move to Scunny. I can only imagine his move is a sweetner so we can have first dibs on Hooper I can’t see it been anymore than that however anything to get to the head of the queue to chat to him and his agent! I think this will be a lingering transfer until mid-late July as Scunthorpe will want to push up his pricve as much as possible, however if we are lucky enough to sign him Paynter, Becchio and Hooper could be quite a potent threesome up front. I did hear yesterday that Marlon Harewood may be talking to us soon, I do think even with those three a big man may be needed as well to rough up defenders and be a decent target as we do resort to hoofball a lot. Scratching Shed @Craig1919 Re. Harewood, I think you may have a point unfortunately. When we come up against tight, compact teams that get under our skin, we do tend to resort to hoofball so he could be a good shout. les irwin god i hope so nothing against tres though i think he is as good a player to have on the bench as any that played there last season (on the bench that is) but hooper is of a good age ,he is proven at this level it would be a step forward getting him , to be honest i like all the signings we have made so far fedi bessone being the last all 4 are are really good frees ,that said we do need to spend a little only if that shows a little commitment from the club i think russel would be a good signing too from norwich ,i know they have to be paid so that is commitment but with the 4 we have and 2/3 others it should be ok next term but i would prefer to get them in early for pre season henry vincent lewis If Leeds have told Tres to find another club we will have no say in where he goes. It think it is just a coincidence. Scunthorpe may have accepted that Hooper is going and they are looking for a replacement. Scratching Shed @henryv Leeds still need to accept a bid (even if it is a free) while ever he remains under contract to us. If a few teams were interested, Leeds could well have engineered his move. Could be coincidental, but these aren’t unusual tactics at football clubs. TheReaper08 @TSS They aren’t unusual tactics but in essence Henry is right, the player and his agent will have been told that a few weeks back that he can leave for no cost. It is more likely coincedental unless we have done a deal to cover part of TK’s wages. My guess is he is on a fair whack as I seem to remember Charlton being put off by this a while back when they were in the CCC. Scratching Shed @TheReaper08 Paying a percent of his wages is an interesting angle. It could just be coincidence, as a few have pointed out, but it’s nice to be optimistic once in a while, and if anyone is engineering clever deals behind the scenes, it’d be the Grayson & Bates partnership. TheReaper08 @TSS Absolutely and please don’t read my post as pessimism, on the contrary I think they could well have worked out a deal already. I don’t think you will see a lot of cash splashed around as clubs look to cut back and just about everything, the deal if it happens makes sense. craig1919 @TSS I have to say though if you’re a Scunthorpe fan it will not fill you with hope if you lose Hooper and replace him with Tres. I do think that this is a glimmer of hope for us as long as Ken is going to allow a cash transfer this summer, I doubt that they are interested in a straight swap : ) If I was Ken i’d be looking at the bigger picture, say we sign Hooper for £2m can you imagine if he continues his development at his current rate at ER he will be worth double in a couple of years, he’s an investment not just a player and there aren’t many of those type of players available. If we got Sharp and sold him on we’d maybe take a cut as a sell on so we need to chance our arm with the transfer budget and do whatever it takes to get him. Scratching Shed @craig1919 I agree, Hooper can still develop further. But I think the bigger picture is that he could take the next step up with us and be just as useful in the Prem. If we make it that far, £2m would be pocket change. TheReaper08 @TSS I know we have discussed this previously but I totally agree. Suspecting we may be interested in him last year I made a point of watching the highlight reels for Scunny. The lad has a little bit extra about him, I particularly like that when he isn’t scoring he appears to be very active in setting up others to score. Scratching Shed @TheReaper08 He’s massively impressed me every time I’ve seen him too. As you say, not only does he score an impressive amount but he’s involved across the pitch. In the games I’ve seen him play, he links well with the midfield, feeds others in and positions himself well always. £2m doesn’t seem that high a price to pay for someone with so many years ahead and so much potential. craig1919 @TSS I’ve heard lots of my Leeds friends saying that if we only have £2m it shouldn’t be “blown” on Hooper and I am continually trying to justify the reasons why it is a great idea! I thoroughly agree that he could be useful in the Prem as I think his future is definitely there with or without us in the next few years. shaun look at the main picture out all 4 players we signed we only been linked wiv paul c rest have come out thin air i would love to see a billy sharp or gary hooper but we also need a goal scoring midfielder as wel unless one of the current one step forward craig1919 Realistically what is the point of an attacking midfielder without anyone to put the ball away? I believe that Killkenny in the Championship will be a little maestro, he’s devastating with a bit of space and nearly always hits his target with a pass, he was booted all over in league one however in th championship where actual football is played he’ll fill that role well I think. My priority roles at CB x2 and a top striker I think our midfield could hold it’s own we certainly don’t lack creativity with Gradel Snodgrass and Killa on the pitch TheReaper08 @craig1919 What we do need though is a midfield general. Scratching Shed @craig1919 @TheReaper08 Not a midfield general by any stretch of the imagination, but Gary Speed’s mention the other day brought back memories. He was always capable of chipping in with a goal or two back in the day. Someone like him would be nice, with a Gordon Strachan alongside him… (and a Gary Mac alongside him!) TheReaper08 @TSS You don’t want much mate. For me I just want a solid foot through the ball midfield general, breaks play up, bosses the opposition etc. Scratching Shed @TheReaper08 …with a couple of step-overs in him and a shot not dissimilar from Peter Lorimer’s. That should cover it. craig1919 @TSS @TheReaper08 What do you think of the Russel link? I aint too sure abut it however seems like he could be on his way. Would Hughes been played in his natural position fill this void… if anything he loves to put his foot through the ball a bit too much! As a last resort would you take Doyle back? Scratching Shed @craig1919 He seemed good enough last season and I reckon he could do a job. Norwich want to keep him, so he must have some ability. TheReaper08 @craig1919 Not sure about the Russel thing really, the fact that we are debating it means that people are not totally sure about him at his current level (TSS below describes him as ‘good enough’ at L1). For me it’s about hot prospects (like Kasper) or proven quality Championship footballers, he is neither so represents a risk. TheReaper08 @TheReaper08 Apologies that should have read TSS above…. craig1919 I have a Norwich mate who said that they want to keep him however would want another player in his role as well due to him not been sure if he can handle the Championship next season, doesn’t fill me with hope, if he can’t handle Norwich he’ll really struggle at Leeds, if the worst comes to the worst Hughes could be given a chance timm Why if the worst comes to the worst? Hughes is a great passer & has a good touch, these are good qualities for a midfielder. The only weakness in his game is maybe a lack of pace, & that’s why so many were so quick to slag him off last season. Those criticisms were wide of the mark because he was helping the team by playing out of position. I seem to remember a bloke called Strachan who had no pace at all but nobody cared because he never played full back. Scratching Shed @Timm I think Hughes became a bit of a cult hero in fairness. His adaptability, effort and willingness to play anywhere on the pitch made a lot of fans warm to him as the season went on. Craig Millward @TSS And quite right too. Players playing out of position are on a hiding to nothing and I take my hat off to Hughes for being willing to look a second-class right/left back for the sake of the team. He played a blinder against the Scum and I thank him from the bottom of my heart. Scratching Shed @craig Yep. Have to admit, that I was one of his biggest critics initially, but he’s definitely won me over. Well done Hughesy! shaun i agree wiv playmarkers we got and think kilkenny is ace i just like a midfielder to add more goals in to double figures i dont think howson can get them. i also think we need center defencer and a striker but i think grella will be good in championship which anit rush kick football but still a battle to win b4 u can play AussieWhite Yes it looks like it’s another tabloid lie as confirmed here: http://www.sportscunny.co.uk/headlines/Iron-manager-extinguishes-Kandol-talk/article-2327772-detail/article.html? Craig Millward It looks like we were guilty of believing everything we read in the papers. The Scunthorpe manager is denying all reports that he’s interested in Kandol!