Loads of rumours, no confirmation

“Funny season” is well under way and Leeds United are being linked with everyone and anyone the papers can create even the loosest of links to. The problem with a management structure that likes to do everything behind closed doors is that all it leaves the rest of us with is guess work and here’s the most notable guesses thus far.

23-year-old Hereford winger, Marc Pugh is being linked after turning down a two-year deal at Edgar Street. Bulls News, the Hereford site which the rumour has been written on does however claim Pugh is more likely to move to Bournemouth, but gives no real indication as to why.

Arsenal’s young goal-keeper Wojciech Szczesny is another player strongly linked with Leeds United and is expected to come in on a season-long loan to fill the position left by Casper Ankergren. Arsene Wenger is known to be a big fan of the Polish stopper and is keen for him to get some games in at a relatively high level before being cast into the number one spot at the Emirates full-time.

Elsewhere, Billy Sharp is once again being linked after Doncaster Rovers failed to secure his services. It’s believed Rovers offered somewhere in the region of £650,000, but the other chasing teams such as Leeds and Derby would have to stump up around £1,000,000 to meet the Blades valuation.

Finally, Newcastle United’s 22-year old goalkeeper Frazer Forster has also been linked, whilst Neill Collins is expected to make his Elland Road loan spell permanent. Gary Hooper remains a strong favourite amongst Leeds United sites, and fans alike, but little seems to have been said from the more mainstream press.

Revie statue

The Yorkshire Post has revealed that a campaign is under way to raise £90,000 for a statue to be commissioned of the late Don Revie. ‘Not before time’ will be the view of most Leeds United fans as many of us have suggested he should be seen alongside the great Billy Bremner on approaching our stadium.

It doesn’t seem the club have any involvement in the campaign so the location of the statue is an area of some dispute. Rest assured though, as I’ve just emailed the campaign’s leader and am hoping for more information in the coming days. If all else fails, I’m sure the fans wouldn’t mind chipping a few quid in each.

Missing persons search

A bit of a quiet spell at the minute without much going on for Leeds United, which is part of the reason TSS hasn’t been updated all week. I noticed a few of the regulars having a bit of a laugh on a previous post with suggestions to my possible whereabouts. I’d just like to confirm Ken Bates hasn’t killed me, I’m not tall enough to be affected by the volcanic dust-cloud, I don’t holiday in Bridlington (or Cleakheaton), I’m not the agent of Lubomir Michalik and didn’t win a seat at the general election, although all the above suggestions were more interesting than my actual life last week, so feel free to pick one out and take it as fact.

  • Henry V

    I thought you might have been assimilated by ‘The Borg’ TSS?
    Simon’s budget will remain a secret but he did say last week that he would not
    need to spend millions to get a good championship team!!!AAaaagggg!
    No change there then!!
    The speculation is fun, but I suspect none of the players we get will have been mentioned yet??

    Henry.

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  • Matt bb

    He doesnt need to spend any money at all does he….. Come on even blackpool had to spend over 1m to get into the playoffs, i hope he doesnt pop down to the equivalent of lidl for his close season bargains and ken treats him to some of the cup run and delph money… I’m not drooling at the prospect of a hereford winger or a scunthorpe striker.. We need a lot more quality than that.

  • lee hartley

    Why not do a survey as to which players fans would like to sign now they are back in the ccc !

  • Tare

    Words matter, absence don’t.

    Tare

  • tim campbell

    I agree with matt I would love it if we stated our intentions for the coming season with some REAL quality being brought in. Bates tells us that attracting players to our club is not a problem, fair enough ken but don’t think for one minute you won’t be judged on ur so called commitment to our club, YOU WILL!! And right here and right now is the acid test- this is ur chance prove to us you have the balls!!

  • yorkslufc

    i hope that we do not go down loans route unless they are prem league teams and full season loans .scecezney ????? spelling, watt. some one has already saisd this is a chance now to start on the road to get leeds back where we could be playing as i write this blackpool are a prem team bates and grayson need to proove they can get it right .we need players to get us promoted but half to 3 quarters need to be good enough to keep us up .leeds like every other team in champs will be trying to go up too right but what just what if we did go up again as far as iam aware we dont get money to go up only to come down so we need to do it slowly .just for the record i would rather stay down than get beat in a playoff final

    • TSS

      Of course you get money for going up. The money you get when coming down is to lessen the extent of the financial loss you’ve incurred. The licensing rights, league share and TV money teams get in the Premier League makes a place worth circa £90,000,000!

      • yorkslufc

        soory what i meant was up front to strenghthen .they dont say well youve gone up heres 60 million to compete with the teams already there .which is why teams struggle up and down. up and down .that 90. miilion is paid in instalments over a season you only get 800,000 to finish bottom but nowt upfront

      • yorkslufc

        if it was as simple as getting 90 million noone would be relegated and manu .chelsea .liverpool ,pompey .hull .and 1 or 2 others would not be in dire financial strife

        • TSS

          The amount of money makes no odds because it’s all relative to what the other teams can afford, what the average Premier League player commands in wages etc… etc… In other words, £90m might sound like an enormous amount of money when you’re in the CCC and struggling to find £1m to buy Billy Sharp, but in the Premiership where everyone has £90m each, it’s nothing – It’s what you can earn on top of that £90m that makes the difference.

          The TV payments and league share makes up the majority of that figure, and this is taken upfront. The rest is a combination of ticket prices, merchandising etc, which is gathered throughout the course of a season. However, the amount of income a club will receive from other areas is predictable so a lot will spend it before we (the customers) have actually given it them, which isn’t unusual in any business.

          • yorkslufc

            no one gets 90 million the sporting intelligence website has a full run down its said blackpool will get 90 million they might ,but over 5 years eg if they finish bottom get 40 million .2×16 million parachute payments and 2x 8 million parachute payments . you are right about relevance players ,buying and wages and all the other rules the prem put in but just for the record tv money is paid in 6 million pound instalments and other tv money when your team is on tv

  • Simon Walker

    Are you the stig ???

    • TSS

      I fill in for him when he’s on holiday or sick.

  • yorkslufc

    pompey got 38 million last season manu and chelsea 58 million the basic is 24 million +prize money + tv money the minimum next season will be 40 million to finish bottom but we dont get it up front

    • TSS

      That’s prize money for finishing position. Entirely different thing, but again, something you can predict and spend before you’ve received it. This is why banks stay in business, because other businesses need to speculate to accumulate and often spend based on predicted earnings, courtesy of the banks.

      • public enemy

        god your argumentitive today tss unlike you i agree like someone else said ARE YOU SURE YOUR NOT REAPER08

        • TSS

          Haha, no I don’t have a multiple identity disorder. Although, I guess I’d be unaware if I did? Large gaps of time haven’t gone missing though, so I think I’m fine.

          I don’t think I’m being argumentative (irony spotted), just quoting what others have said about the potential earnings of the final we saw today. I’d call it debate as opposed to an argument, but you say tomato…

          • public enemy

            ok actually its tomato .any way i know what you mean about gambling on tv money etc .however banks are struggling and our credit rating cant be that good after admin aswell as that there is some more admin money to pay back should we get there a few million quid so before we satrt we are down ,bates has also said he wont live beyond his means

        • TheReaper08

          Oh dear public enemy, just because you don’t agree with the unfactual sometimes ill conceived nonsensical points raised on here your argumentative ? I would call it sensible ;o)

          • TSS
          • TheReaper08

            Hello TSS, apologies but we have run out of ‘replies’ so I have just had to reply to myself, more likely the first sign of madness when you find yourself ‘replying’ to your own comments.

            I don’t think I have laughed so much in a long long time. I like the concept that we flit between idenitities depending on what argument we wish to push. Not so keen on the man love at Pontins bit, just call me old fashioned.

            The truth why we have been missing is obvious, I have been very busy at work having returned from paternity and you are our secret first signing that Uncle Ken keeps eluding to, do you play left back TSS ?

          • TSS

            Well, I played right-midfield mainly, but can use both feet so have played in that position. I’m 100% certain I can do a better job than Capaldi and will accept £50 p/w less.

  • Matt bb

    It might well be the richest game in football but tell that to portsmouth, watford and hulk, all totally fiscally dead. Parachute payments are scant reward for com’ensating for a 25m hole in your turnover, i know its romantic to call it this but its glossing over a lot of issues.

    • public enemy

      alleged 90,000,000 is not as rose tinted as it may seem like you say ask hull ,southampton ,pompey etc etc etc football sadly will not learn til a big team goes under with out a doubt liverpool are the nearest of the big clubs to go into admin .we also seem to forget we at some point had a 100,000,000 debt and an admin so we do not need to be going up quite yet

  • tim campbell

    I reckon we will have to spend in the region of 4-6 million basic to stand any chance this coming year and as most punters on this site seem to agree we need 5-6 new faces

  • Ron

    Bates is right, however, luring League One players or second string Championship players to Leeds is hardly evidence we are going after promotion. I honestly believe our best players this year will be on loan from the premier league and this young keeper from Arsenal fits the bill. What would really be pleasing is if we can snare a few quality players from cash-strapped Cardiff too.

    • LEE S WALES

      Now that Cardiff City didnt get promotion I think Simon Grayson should go and raid their squad. One player i think he should take a look at is Ross McCormack, I dont think he’s getting a fair crack at Cardiff at this present time and he’s more than capable of scoring lots of goals…..
      Even though I live 30mins fron Cardiff’s ground well done Blackpool and to all you Cardiff fans hahahahahahaha
      Leeds forever…….marching on together

  • Timothy Wilson

    Maybe put the Revie statue in the technical area.

  • West stand rebel

    James Constable from Oxford United is on the radar I’m led to believe. He’s a striker aged 25 who scored 20 + goals last season. Guess he wouldn’t cost that much even though Oxford were promoted back to the football league.

    • TheReaper08

      I’ve met James Constable a couple of times, he used to play for a team called Chippenham Town that a few people I know either have or do play for, I doubt if he would remember me though. Not a bad lower league player and has scored plenty of goals, not sure about him as our CCC striker though.

  • Paul South Wales

    I went to Wembly yesterday (please forgive me) as my mates are all City fans and there was a ticket going spare. It was nice to travel home and not feel totally gutted as my mates did, though they reckon they’ll get six points off us next season….I can’t see it myself. Good day out though.

    • timm

      You weren’t sat with the racist bastard that threw a bottle of piss at our keeper when we played them in the FA Cup were you? Im glad they didn’t go up & i hope they go bankrupt.

      • Matt BB

        ouch. We wont build any bridges if we tar all cardiff fans with the same brush, there should be some fraternity with the poor b*ggers who have found themsleves in this position thanks to Peter Ridsdale.

        I have to admit I dont particularly like them but we could do without the hostility.

        • timm

          Sorry Matt but they have way too many racist bigots attached to that club. I say get rid of them & let them play in the Welsh league if they dislike England so much. The offences they committed against our players & supporters went largely unpunished & even their ‘head of security’ was a convicted hooligan. They run a close second to Galatasarey in my book. Regarding building bridges, i think that’s down to them & not us? But i wouldn’t hold your breath Matt.

          • Craig

            As long as your rant isn’t ethnic bigotry timm!

          • Matt BB

            Many’s the time I have been labelled a `hooligan’ as soon as I mentioned that I supported Leeds – which I’m not i must add! – I still think there are plenty of decent Cardiff fans and the minority ruin it for them. I’m glad we have a welsh team challenging to get into the premiership and think we should have scottish and irish ones too, remember our greatest player was Welsh.

          • timm

            No Craig, just an anti-racist & anti meat-head rant. Wales has many beautiful parts with some friendly people. Glad to clear that up Craig.

          • timm

            I know Terry Yorath was Welsh Matt but i’d hardly say he was our greatest player!! I actually belive our greatest player was Scottish, & you could pick from 5 or 6!

          • Pete

            You’d put the taffs anywhere even close to Galatasary?

            Violent murderers supporting a group that includes the most violent player I’ve seen in the last 10 years and possibly the biggest mercenary to ever wear the white of leeds?

            Seriously, the only way that club could get any worse is if they started burning Leeds shirts before a european semi-final and turned their backs on a minutes silence for two innocent fans that their supporters had murdered…what do you mean they already did that??

          • timm

            Their ‘supporters’ behaviour during & following that cup tie, which included bottles & bricks being thrown at our fans & players, & Leeds fans as young as 9 years old having the shit kicked out of them after the game could easily have ended with loss of life. Don’t get me wrong Pete, i hate Galatasarey with a passion, but it was more by luck than judgement that no one was killed that day, & Sam Hamman & his cronies seemed to think the whole thing was funny.

      • Pete

        I hope they go bankrupt too, to the point where we can nick Chopra and Whittingham for 100k for the pair of them.

  • Matt BB

    Just seen on sky sports grayson (as per the leeds united standard) telling us not to be concenred about how quiet it is in the transfer market. Is anyone else fed up with this every summer, we get to 28th 29th July and have had a single free transfer from Inverness Cally for some 35 year old who was transfer listed and let around 4 of ours go.

    We really need to make a statement with our signings this year and go for promotion, we cant afford to be stuck down here any longer as a club, we need to get back up there attract investors and buy our ground. Right off my soapbox.

    • Craig

      Personally, I’m happy with the quiet way we do business. It means we can court players without alerting other clubs that they are looking for a move and we are spared the recriminations over the big fish we tried, but failed, to sign.

      • Matt BB

        I dont know if I buy it, its quiet because nothings happening of note. Thats what experience has borne out for me. We didnt make many good signings last year and not since Mr McAllister have we signed any decent attacking players.

        I really hope I’m wrong but I fear another extremely quiet transfer market.

        • timm

          I think quite a few of the movers & shakers are still on holiday to be honest? I think we can expect players of the calibre of Montgomery & Hooper or Sharp to be joining us, but that’ll be as good as it gets quality wise. Im pretty sure we have to pay back some debts from administration now we’re promoted? (which im sure will please you Matt?) so i wouldn’t expect too much. Im more than happy with either of the keepers we’re looking at taking on loan, they’re both absolutely top rated, & the fact that it’s a loan deal doesn’t bother me at all, look at Birmingham City with Joe Hart. I think it’s a bit tricky for SG to gauge how these players will perform? Yes, we struggled this year in L1 but we also performed superbly against Man Utd, Liverpool, Spurs & Watford. I actually think the January window could have more relevence than this summer?

          • Matt BB

            Well I hope that we do our main business in the summer – and buy right. I’d like to think that we get either sczenyny of Forster in goal, and am not averse to some good season long loans, I would like to see some imagination though and some real exciting talent coming to Leeds.

            I take no pleasure in Bates being made to pay back debts, because its Leeds United that suffers not the mysterious FSF.. or even Chairman Bates, but i do tend to sympathise with the local businesses who the administration hurt, at a bad time. These are businesses peopled by Leeds men and women, many of whom earn a fraction of what the likes of Bates or indeed our playing squad do.

            For me its vital some bridges are built – to coin a phrase, and we as a club put something back. Promotion has gone some way to doing that but we need to re-establish our reputation as a business as well.

          • timm

            I actually do take pleasure in these debts being paid back. All too often we see flash so called businessmen winding companies up owing hundreds of thousands of pounds to suppliers & then starting up again the next day with a clear conscience & a Porsche in the garage! But we can’t expect debt repayment AND big money signings. So i think those of us expecting the likes of Montgomery & Hooper may well be satisfied, but anyone expecting us to shell out 2 or 3 million on any one player may well be disappointed. And any debts we pay back to creditors ultimately comes out of a kitty that belongs to FSF.

  • TheReaper08

    Evening all, as it’s become increasingly apparent that you have all missed my argumentativeness I am delighted to say I am again monitoring this fine fine website.

    Got back from paternity to find the powers that be have blessed me with a promotion moving me to an area that I have no experience in, this explains my absence as I am trying to learn a new job in the space of two weeks. Contrary to some opinions I am not TSS although I do confess I would take great pride in being the architect and keeper of this fine site.

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