Just noticed (via WACCOE) that today marks 26 years since Leeds United fans ruined Chelsea’s shiny new scoreboard.

Back in 1984, the rivalry between Leeds United and Chelsea was still a volatile one. A certain Ken Bates was in charge of the Londoners and had just erected a shiny new scoreboard for their pleasure. With a dismal Leeds United being destroyed 5-0 by the hated Chelsea, Leeds fans took their anger out on Ken Bates’ prized centrepiece, totally destroying the scoreboard.

Never one to overreact, Ken Bates’ suggestion after the event was to kick Leeds United out of football.

When his appeal for the end of Leeds United failed, Kenneth had to wait more than twenty years to cease control of Leeds United. He then had them relegated to the third tier and made their fans witness some insufferable football at extortionate prices. Revenge is sweet I guess…

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  • Chris from Wakey

    You are absolutely correct – Uncle Ken has really got his own back on Leeds. If we have a whip round and pay back the cost of the scoreboard, plus interest of course, then he might f**k off and let someone else get Leeds back where we belong.

  • Hotshotlorimer

    Ahhh….So that’s it then. The real reason for us never seeing the money invested in the team or for the revelation of the owners. It’s all going to pay off the scoreboard manufactures who naturally, jut like your signwriter down the road, hold their accounts in the Cayman Islands. Find out who owns them and we’ve got the bastards. Simple.com. Does anyone ken who it might be?

  • dennis

    MILLWALL MILLWALL MILLLLWAAALLLLLL!

  • dennis

    MILLWALL MILLWALL MILLWALLLLL!

  • Craig

    This has to be the final piece of the jigsaw puzzle that enumerates our recent history. There are no more mysteries to be solved apart from where all the pens disappear to.

  • TheReaper08

    And it was all going so well with the joviality of yesterdays leadership debate. I see normal service has resumed on LLHB sorry I meant TenforKen no I didn’t I meant TSS (Apologies for the confusion sometimes it’s so easy to forget where you are)

    Anyway on with the show, Grrrr that Bates is a villain he was in my backgarden last night pinching my plant pots etc. etc.

    • TSS

      Oh come on Reaper, surely you saw the humour in that? I assure you it was written with my tongue firmly wedged in my cheek, but to prevent future confusion, I’ll be sure to add a disclaimer to the bottom of any posts written in a sarcastic tone.

      • TheReaper08

        Our banter I can take and understand it’s just I found the article very inflamatory for some of our passers through.

        I don’t think I am wrong considering I find myself debating the merits of violent behaviour with someone below.

      • TheReaper08

        And now I feel compelled to defend the site and it’s posters from our Chelsea visitors also.

        It’s not that I feel bad doing it, I can take myself into the trenches with the best of them, I just think it’s needless and does our image no good at all.

    • TSS

      PS. A couple of the hanging baskets I had on my treehouse went missing the other day too. Possible link perhaps?

      • TheReaper08

        You have a tree house ?

        • timm

          A tree house in a cave?!

          • TSS

            No, I left the cave after Bates’ henchmen came around. Keep up! I’ve mentioned this before.

  • Carl Pearson

    i remember that like yesterday as a young lad in northampton a day trip on national express down the smoke,what i remember with more significance was the fact that uncle ken actually supplied our ammunition that day with the terrace in disrepair it was like christmas when it came to finding lumps to lob at said scoreboard,maybe he should have fixed the terrace first then got the scoreboard,maybe just maybe he is not always right,hotel before team anyone,i do not know how i got out alive that day we got squashed in by the old bill i could not even take a breath at some points,they were great days,mad but great.

    • TheReaper08

      Yeah great days Carl, throwing rocks at scoreboards, ripping out seats at away grounds, setting fire to things, beating other human beings to a pulp. Oh how I long for those days to return, you weren’t at the Norwich away game were you ?

    • DAVE

      I’m with you Carl, fun days.

      • Chareose

        As a Leeds fan id be more interested in doing damage to any other Leeds fan who damaged my own club not the opposition fans….. but then i love my club and i dont want to see it smeared in shite

        • TheReaper08

          Well done Chareose, a very responsible attitude. Not that you need it but you have my full support.

  • les

    if it means bates will F*@k OFF he can take the scoreboard in the corner for me .them we can have sexy cheer leaders walking round the pitch with score cards

  • Carl Pearson

    wow reaper you are touchy,im about 5 foot nowt would struggle to hurt meself never mind anyone else but if two like minded mobs want to knock lumps out of eachother i will grab the popcorn, and yes it was great a lot greater than what is served up these days,and we sang mot properly,and i aint worried about me plant pots cos i aint got none and i aint getting any till im 70

    • TheReaper08

      Not touchy just interested in a decent society where my football club is respected. Interesting really as I am 6ft 4″ and 17 stone yet if I saw two groups of knuckle draggers going at it I would probably call the police, cos that’s what they are, cave dwelling knuckle draggers that bring disdain upon this great club.

      • Mark R

        Ha ….. LUBO is 6ft 4′ Reaper….I knew you secretly supported his leadership campaign !

        Anyone who was at the Chelsea match in the old Canon Second Division remember who was in our team that day ?

        Don’t know why you can’t access archive information on the LUFC website – would be a good section.

        • TheReaper08

          You got me Mark R, us tall uns have got to stick together !

          Vote Lubo !

          • timm

            Huh! Bloody defector!!

  • Raph

    Your idea sounds good les…might get bigger gates too haha

  • Mark R

    See this link : http://www.wafll.com/leeds-statistics/leeds-1983-84.html

    Pick who you think was in the team that day.
    Eddie Gray was player Manager and his brother Frank was still on the books. Harvey , Sheridan , Ritchie … and the incomparable George McCluskey !

    Around the mid to late 80’s I remember seeing back to back .. home vs. Plymouth 0-0 , and on the following Tuesday home vs. Port Vale 0-0.

    Good Times …

    • TheReaper08

      Fantastic photo and obviously great memories.

      • Mark R

        Just looked through some of the other late 80’s seasons on that site to see if I can find the two 0-0 draws I mentioned.
        I think my mind must have mixed up two seasons into one ..either that or I’m remembering a couple of Subbueteo matches ……

        • Mark R

          That’s SUBBUTEO .. THE game of the 1970’s … Happy Days !

        • Craig

          Subbuteo matches never ended 0-0!

          • Mark R

            Nice one Craig , however I do remember a match between the Ackroyd brothers that was abandoned after 2 minutes when Andy smashed 2 of Martin’s players because of his brothers goading. Result>0-0 match abandoned, 10 injured players that no amount of airfix glue could mend, fighting on the pitch, and Martin’s new Subbuteo scoreboard well and truely obliterated. League matches were never played again at Mr.& Mrs. Ackroyd’s house and subsequently there was always a heavy Subbuteo Police presence at any local derbies between the Ackroyd Brothers. It was in all the papers!

            Great Days.

          • Craig

            And we wonder where our hooligans learn their trade!

  • timm

    What a great gesture from our chairman to show the Charlton match at ER absolutely free to season ticket holders & members who book their ticket before 5pm on friday. I’m sure most people would willingly pay a couple of quid for that so nice one Mr Chairman. Regarding the lack of investment, i’ll wait to see what happens before next August to pass judgement on that one. I think we all agree that we’re a good way off being CCC material so it makes perfect sense that our manager would rather save the money until we go up in order to attract better quality players. Regarding Bates wanting the book throwing at us when he owned Chelsea, well surely that’s just the same as him wanting the book throwing at Carlisle for allowing their inbred hillbillys to get on the pitch & punch a couple of his teams players? A chairman that sticks up for his club, all too rare these days me thinks.

    • TSS

      Yeah, I begrudgingly agree. The above was entirely written in jest, but this is another example of Ken Bates shooting his mouth off. I remember he once suggested erecting an electric fence around Stamford Bridge’s pitch to keep the fans off and was gobsmacked when the FA denied his proposal.

      He enjoys – and creates – the drama too much for my liking.

      • TheReaper08

        Life is very very boring without it’s characters, you haven’t got to agree with someone to appreciate that.

  • West Stand Rebel

    Yes TSS he revels in the drama and conflict. He no doubt revelled at the thought of presenting service medals to returning heroes from Afghanistan. Not quite brave enough to do it himself though was he.
    Perhaps the morality of the VAT /INCOME TAX/NATIONAL INSURANCE he stole from honest fans and employees was too much even for him. Imagine how much extra equipment our troops could have had for £6.5m .
    Wonder how many lives or injuries that kind of money could have saved?

    • Colin

      Why don’t you contact Peter Ridsdale and ask him for the money back, because he’s the one who racked up the £6.5m owed to the taxman?

      Or why not ask Gerald Krasner why he officiated the sale of ER and TA and the money was spent on the club rather than paying back the taxman?

      Why not ask David Healy or Danny Mills why they forced Leeds’ hands to pay them in cash ahead of the tax man? Especially when they were playing for other clubs. David O’Leary didn’t take the payment he legally could have taken from Leeds.

      You can have a pop at Bates on this issue if you like, but for me, he’s at the lower end of a long list of money grabbing bastards responsible for not paying that tax bill.

      • Pete

        Yeah, we have enough reasons to have a pop at Ken (libel, anti-semitism, etc.) without adding money-grabbing in there…

      • West Stand Rebel

        Colin just read your reply so lets address the issues. The £6.5m unpaid tax was not the inherited debt from the Ridsdale or Krasner era. Vat is payable quarterly and income tax and ni are payable monthly. Income tax and NI would have been deducted from the wages and salaries of the staff and players supposedly held in trust and payable on the 19th day after the month in question.
        Vat comprises the net difference between input tax and output tax and is generally payable every three months.

        Customs and Revenue would not have allowed these amounts to be outstanding for the 2 years prior to administration that Bates was in charge.
        So bad as Ridsdale and Krasner were they somehow managed to pay the taxman. Admittedly this must have been by borrowing or selling assets/players.
        When Bates came in he would have known the scale of the debt he was inheriting. If not well he’s a fool.
        As for players and footballing debts they are still payable after administration. This is one of the issues that the Revenue are trying to address.
        Some of you didn’t like me suggesting that the tax could have saved lives in Afghanistan. Maybe it couldn’t maybe it could have been wasted on moats and duck ponds. Maybe it could have been spent on the NHS or schools.
        At least we all have a vote on where the tax can be spent or wasted next week. There is no such democracy at Elland Road.

        • timm

          ‘There is no such democracy at Elland Road’. Apart from Barcelona which club is there a democracy at? Do the kop take a vote on who Rafa buys? Do the stretford end meet up with Sir Alex to give him a list of summer targets? England have an official travel club,There’s nothing unique about Bates wanting to bring everything ‘in house’, it’s the way of the world nowadays. It’s like Nectar Cards & Tesco cards & HMV cards, all designed to keep you spending your cash with them. All of them, including Leeds Utd rely on customer loyalty, & if a customer doesn’t like them they should walk away. Let’s just count ourselves lucky that we’re not playing at the KB Stadium!

    • timm

      F**k me west stand rebel! You’ve even got him responsible for our troops getting killed now! That is seriously the most ridiculous comment i’ve ever heard on here! I suggest you go & see someone about your issues with Bates. If you want to blame someone for troops getting killed, you should look at Tony Blair & his ‘we could have sworn he had some WMDs somewhere’ mates! China is the worlds fastest growing superpower, they spent 20 billion quid on the Beijing olympics, yet Gordon Brown gives over 20 million quid a year to them in aid!& you’re on here trying to say that Ken Bates not paying back Peter Ridsdales debt is putting our troops at risk!!!

    • TheReaper08

      West Stand Rebel that’s a rubbish and quite frankly low argument, even for one directed at a someone like Bates.

      You honestly beleive that if Ken had paid up it would have gone to the troops ? That he is responsible for that ?

  • Paul South Wales

    Does anyone know if the Charlton game is being streamed on the net anywhere??????

  • Gate 13 finest

    For your information you backward Northern cnts…..the scorboard was not shinny and new and you obviously are no older than about 30 or maybe like most Leeds fans talk out of your shit shute! The scoreboard was at least 3/4 years old. SO NO Shinny new scoreboard! I was still a teenager at the 5-0 securing of promotion to the old 1st division as it was known then. Yes you did smash the scoreboard but you also got run silly outside the ground and whilst the celebrations where still going on you backed off and got some abuse and fists and agro.
    So next time all you can bleat on about is some factual flaws about a new scoreboard get it right! You were mugged on and off the pitch before/during and after. Now fcuk off back to the midlands or even London where some of you white clad so-called Yorkshire idiots claim to come from and support your fast fading club……

    • TheReaper08

      Oh dear, did someone poke the retard. He seems to have woken up.

      • Colin

        To be fair if someone would have done that to us and then had the stupidity to glorify it in some blog then I’d expect all the stick that we get.

        A post of “26 years since we broke Chelsea’s scoreboard” is offensive to Chelsea fans. I’m surprised we haven’t had more (deserved) stick for this.

        Are we going to be happy if we see a Huddersfield Town blog saying “26 years since we painted Bremner blue”?

        We need to get real. Stupid post from a Leeds fan site.

        As I’ve said before, this site is turning into a love Leeds, hate everyone else site. Maybe that’s why we have the bad rep that we have.

        • TheReaper08

          Possibly Colin but that’s for us to debate amongst ourselves, if you read my posts above I do not approve of the article nor do I condone violence.

          I think it does nothing to help our cause at all. That said I am not going to stand by and let some halfwit label all the good people I debate with with the same brush.

        • Colin

          Everyone knows I’m Leeds through and through but we have to check the facts – Chelsea – top of Premier League, Leeds 2nd in Third Division.

        • TheReaper08

          Further more if our new visitor had come on and said how stupid it was and how it does nothing to improve our image I would have agreed entirely with their argument.

    • les

      wow that was some pent up pressures being released ,is there any need for that really bad language tut tut tut,it seams that not only are you still hurting about your scoreboard that there,s many years of hurt being behind arsenal for so ,long ,its ok your starting to catch up .why are you reading a leeds site any way .
      however we dont condone the use of violence it gave us a bad name for years i would much rather not have a fight with chelsea.personally i hope ABRAMOVICH just decides he has had enough and leaves cos that will be the end of them full stop

  • Gate 13 finest

    Retard, oops is that it, facts you knob, not ramblings from a retard. Just somebody who was there 26 years ago? no retard just somebody who picks up on cnuts like you who talk shite about 26 years ago without being honest. As that other twat Rafa Benitez quotes FACTS not fiction.
    Retard, look in the mirror (you might see somebody who does not tell the truth) and is maybe as you say it a “RETARD” yourself. As I was taught at school “takes one to know one” now FUCK off with your Fairytales……

    • TheReaper08

      Firstly it’s shiny not ‘shinny’.

      Secondly the line ‘ Now fcuk off back to the midlands or even London where some of you white clad so-called Yorkshire idiots claim to come from and support your fast fading club……’ implies and reads that we all think we come from the Midlands or London.

      And lastly and more importantly the crux of your argument seems to be that we are fake because our support comes from other parts of the country. Do you ever step outside London or do your knuckles get sore dragging them that far ? All teams have support all over the country, some even have support all over the world.

      What an excellent example of the intelligence of people from our nations fair capital you are. I repeat did someone wake the RETARD, no scratch that I don’t think your bright enough to be called a retard, in fact you would be an insult to retards everywhere.

    • les

      FIGHT ,FIGHT FIGHT
      OH NO IF YOU WERE THERE 26 YEARS AGO YOUR TOO OLD TO HIT LOL

  • Gate 13 finest

    I poked Chelsea’s new scoreboard, wow what a Leeds fan you are…..very very impressive. Maybe I’ll go away a practice being a retard and go and look up what a real football fan does to prove he is a football fan…..

    • TheReaper08

      Trust me you don’t need to practice pal, you have it cracked.

      • spanish white

        Well said Reaper.Brilliant!!

  • Carl Pearson

    im 43 and was there and it was scary no doubt about it,i also remember after the pitch cleared from one of many invasions there was a copper layed in middle of park dint look good tbh,like i said worst thing for me was when them old bill came in and was crushed i mean to the point of could not breath fuckin scary,also had a nice gold earing that was a present ripped out if anyone found it cheers!

    • TheReaper08

      Carl is that a CBR6 in your picture ?

  • Colin

    I’m a Leeds fan and I’m with Gate 13 – Chelsea, no matter what you think of them, have great fans. Leeds have great fans. You want to dig at Chelsea? Fine, then expect the comeback. But don’t go calling Chelsea fans retards for having the umbridge at a Leeds site celebrating throwing bricks and seats at the Chelsea scoreboard.

    Leeds breaking Chelsea’s scoreboard – embarrasing

    A Leeds blog site celebrating Leeds breaking Chelsea’s scoreboard 26 years ago – pathetic.

    • TheReaper08

      This is where we are going to have to agree to disagree. Every club has it’s preportion of idiot fans, every club, even Chelsea.

      I will call anyone who has the audacity to come on and raise there issue with such eloquent use of words such as ‘backward northern cnts’ a retard. I don’t agree with the article and I don’t agree with violent actions but the article is well written, without insult and is aimed more at our current chairman than Chelsea or it’s fans.

      I will debate with my best attempts at the Queen’s English with anyone, if you want to lower the argument to the kind of insults being banded around you better be ready to go the distance and expect it back in spades and with venom.

      I repeat there would have been no retard retort from me had the poster come on said they thought the article was crap and that it did little to enhance the reputation of our club, in fact I would have agreed.

      • timm

        I think Chelsea must hold the record for numpty fans? Too much Combat 18 & too many glory hunters. All that jellied eels & a nice cuppa splosh bollocks really gets on my northern tits to be honest. They have the mother of all pricks for a captain & they’re only where they are because they’re owned by a russian gangster who never even speaks. Chelsea aren’t taken seriously because they pay ridiculous amounts for players & have no youth policy. Basically, if the Russian goes, they’ll be in the shit! I still think this was a post best left to waccoe though. So say what you want gate13, we’ll still be laughing at you & your mockney geezer mates.

        • Chareose

          Thats it mate get it all out…. for me I view Chelsea as a good club who Leeds have always had good competitive games with…..thats it. I dont go in for all this tribal bullshit…. its a game after all

        • TheReaper08

          timm did you notice Andy Hughes is up to 11 votes now, the legend is now level with ‘other’ whoever he is.

          • timm

            That’s because i’ve been out campaigning Reaper! I live in Harrogate & it’s a key maginal you know? We’ve got to keep those ‘Luboites’ out!

          • timm

            Hughesy up to 12. The momentum’s really building now!

  • anyway, are you lot in for a change of govt, or what? We have all found it rather hilarious that the scots (Gordie with the head of a front rower) have been running the show for far too long. I feel you need a nice new greenie to run the show.

  • Gate 13 finest

    Oh dear oh dear, thats cheap coming from a club who patented buying over priced players and paying ridiculous wages and look where it got your once mighty club. Champions league semi-finals to 3rd tier of English football in what was it, about 4 years? Please dont throw mud at Chelsea when at least Ken Bates finally turned our club round.
    Sorry to hit a nerve with some swearing but you come out with pathetic headlines about breaking a new scoreboard 26 years ago. Is that all you can hold onto…..pathetic.
    For your information I was there in the 80’s when it was more tribal and real fans went to matches and could walk up to a turnstile and pay. Not the hard work it is now, so keep your “Russian Mafia, bla ,bla bla” bullshit to yourself. High wages, captains this, where would you be without the russian money. Well 4 trophies in 5 years before he came along and like your ONCE mighty selves were qualifying for the Champions league. Your problem is that your sugar daddy isnt really one and he is a bitter 70 odd year old called Ken Bates.
    Good luck with the play-offs……..

    • TheReaper08

      That’s more like it Gate 13 finest and you are absolutely right. We got ourselves in this mess and it’s taking far far too long (in my opinion)to get out of it. We are where we are for a reason (spending what we don’t have and subsequent under investment)and being a third tier team is the reality of it.

      Personally I don’t have anything against Chelsea and if you read the article it’s more of a tongue in cheek look at how Ken has managed to get his own back on us for that incident many years ago.

    • TheReaper08

      Cheap shot with the play offs though but you know what I am going to let you have that one…..

    • timm

      Couldn’t agree more gate13, it was a pathetic headline to be honest, & not the sort of thing you’d normally find on this site. But i won’t keep my Russian Mafia bla bla bullshit to myself because it’s true. Just like it’s true that your captains a scumbag from a family of scumbags. Altogether know…..Knees up muvver brown, knees up muvver brown…

  • Mark R

    Crikey, a heated debate and some feisty outpourings. In hindsight perhaps not the thing to refer to the Chelsea Scoreboard incident.

    In fairness there is an anti violence stance from Reaper and other’s in the post prior to Gate 13 being opened.

    Hope I didn’t put fuel on the fire with the tale of the Ackroyd Brothers earlier in the post.

    Reaper – Steady away bud.

    Gate 13 – Steady on fella, you had some fair points but lost it with the Northern this and that. No need really. Enough to put anyone’s back up.

    A good mate of mine is a Chelsea regular and he’s never referred to us in those colourful tones , granted… Northern Monkey yes .. but never the C word.

    We’ve got a great rivalry back to 1970. Long may it continue but without any more smashed scoreboards.

    When I was just a little boy .. I asked my Mother what should I be…
    Should I be Chelsea .. should I be Leeds … Here’s what she said to me..

    Let’s all sit down, have a nice cold glass of dandelion and burdock and take 5 minutes.

    MOT

    • TheReaper08

      Morning Mark R.

      I am ok mate, I don’t usually get riled but I can’t have someone wandering in using unsavoury language and unnecessary labels.

      I am glad you noticed my anti violence stance, if Gate 13 had read all of the posts and raised the issue in a sensible manor this could have been avoided, more so he probably would have got my support.

      Personally I put all the blame on the Ackroyd brothers subbuteo incident……

    • timm

      Or a nice cup of ‘hows yer father’!

      • Mark R

        Those pesky Ackroyd brothers !

        Glad all is well in Reaper land.

  • Pete

    Hey, gate13, are you aware that your club is the most cockney in the premier league?

    Stamford Bridge is closer to the Bow Bells than Upton Park…

  • TheReaper08

    You on your hols TSS ? There are some cracking stories doing the rounds on news now today. Neil Mellor to Leeds (No thanks) Rui wants Leeds stay (Possibility).

    I also noticed your Bates tax post on Dirty Leeds regarding the screening at ER this Saturday, did you see any of the other posts, a lot of support out there for Ken on this one.

  • Mark R

    Rui … I like him . Stay for me .
    Mellor .. don’t know him but if he’s being offloaded by Preston then be careful.

    You know what .. I think Gate 13 was Ken Bates online from Monaco… it all makes sense when you re-read it. I think West Stand Rebel tipped him over the edge when he implicated him in the Afghan War.

    Hellfire…a damaged 1984 scoreboard in London, Subbuteo and THE AFGHAN WAR in one post.

    Mad World

    • TheReaper08

      Yep, if I asked you to set up a conversation involving those three things I bet you couldn’t do it. Been a mad 24 hours.

      Don’t want Neil Mellor at any cost, how long can you be the next big striker out of Liverpool without really ever doing anything ?

      • Pete

        Mellor wasn’t exactly good for Liverpool…barring that one screamer against Arsenal, mind.

  • Carl Pearson

    reaper sorry missed ye question about the bike it was an sp1 mate

    • TheReaper08

      Nice, always liked them, I came close to buying one but plumped for an Aprilia RSV instead. Don’t regret buying it but regret never trying the SP1.

    • TheReaper08

      By the way my tag name ‘Reaper’ comes from my failed attempts at trying to race a 1997 ZX7R. I was a massive fan of Anthony ‘Go Show’ Gobert who raced with an AGV helmet with a Reaper on the back. My mates started calling me it in jest and it stuck.

      • Craig

        What a let down – I thought I was corresponding with Death himself. I’ve been telling all my friends…….

  • TSS

    Christ, some people take life far too seriously. The above was written tongue-in-cheek as an ironic dig at our current chairman. Since I’ve been accused of being LLHB 2.0, I thought I’d have fun with it. It was meant to be self-deprecating if anything, but clearly the subtle humour was lost on some? I’ll be sure to add disclaimers from this point onwards.

    I offer my profuse apologies to the Chelsea clown too. I forgot there may be some of their fans reading this and that 3-4 years is classed as antique in Chelsea.

    • TheReaper08

      Evening TSS, not to fret but I did warn that this might happen. You will see from above that I did get the point of your post and have pointed that out to others.

      As for our Chelsea friend well I think that is finished, I had to knock 25 years off my age and get involved in a bit of a name calling spat but hey ho. I don’t like to do it considering you never see me swear or call people names. Bit of a surprise to be further attacked by Colin but water off a ducks back to me.

      • Colin

        Reaper, just catching up on some of the posts – I wasn’t having a go at you – I wouldn’t do that – I was having a go at the reason for even having this thread in the first place.

        • TheReaper08

          To be fair Colin you had a point, I shouldn’t have opened up by calling names, it goes against everything I believe in.

          What annoyed me was the opening line calling us all rather unpleasant things, red rag to a bull for me i’m afraid. If you disagree then make your point politely and who know’s I might even support it.

          No offence taken or given.

    • TSS

      Evening Reaper. I’m just gob-smacked at the lack of a sense of humour some fans seem to have. Shouldn’t have surprised me really though as I remember similar arguments about how the written word incited hooliganism – almost complete nonsense of course, as most fans enjoy the one-up-manship as banter and nothing more.

      Still, I’ll be sure to tune into the Leader’s Debate tonight and brush up on my political correctness.

      • Pete

        Reaper, you did manage to find a particularly cretinous londoner…as a born and bred yorkshire ex-pat living in London, I can tell you now that they’re not all that bad. The Spurs and Fulham fans are the best for a bit of friendly banter, Chelsea fans can’t really take (or understand) humour of any kind, but they’re not as bad as the deluded Orient fans who think that they actually register on our radar as a genuine rival…

        • TheReaper08

          I live just down the M4 from you in never sunny Swindon and work not too far from Reading. Meet loads of fans of London clubs and never really had a problem with any of them.

      • Pete

        TSS, don’t you mean ‘brush up on how to call people a bigot and lie about fixing the economy’?

        In fact…I think I’ve found where Ken Bates has been for the last few weeks. In a Gordon Brown suit.

        • TSS

          Well, TSS’ economy runs well. It’s more of a dictatorship than a democracy, so easier to control. As for the ‘bigot’ comment – as cringe-worthy as it was, I kinda agreed with him, but maybe that’s because I’d spent the morning stuck in a services listening to pensioners whinge?

    • Craig

      I’ve let much of this pass by me, mostly because I’m spending much less time in front of a PC at present. This might be the point to stick up for TSS though. I thought the original post was both clever and refreshingly surreal. OK, it attracted an idiot, probably drawn here through News Now, and I do understand Reaper’s point, but I feel the need to support editorial independence. Go for it TSS.

      • Craig

        Just read the original WACCOE thread. Now that is where the WACCOE’s hang out – still glorying in the mayhem and violence 26 years later. It awakened the twinges of shame I felt back then at being a Leeds fan.

  • Carl Pearson

    get an sp2 over an sp1 mate swingarm to die for and various other improvements over the sp1,i got an 848 ducati now sadly due to lack of work getting rid in next few days,might have it long enough to go to the live screening on sat got ticket today but weather looks bit iffy, always loved the rsv in all forms but too bloody tall for dwarfs.

    • TheReaper08

      Sorry to hear that Carl, hope things pick up for you again soon and you can get back on two wheels.

      Would love to be at ER this Saturday but too far away, I will be rcoking backwards and forwards in isolation (probably in my garage) until the results roll in.

  • Carl Pearson

    yeh gobert was cool would av made a good leeds fan at that time i reckon,new a tall lad in yeadon who raced a ex bsb zxr few years ago?

    • TheReaper08

      Not me Carl, I was never that good. My fledgling racing career ended in the gravel at Clearways corner Brands Hatch.

  • Carl Pearson

    dont worry will always have two wheels just might not have the engine to go with em

  • Carl Pearson

    yeah i had a racing career that ended at mallory park hairpin when my chain decided to put all its energy into slicing my engine apart lol,the career was only one and a half races long ten years ago but at least we were racers eh mate lol.

    • Timmo

      Now bikes epic thread

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