Loan watch: Davide Somma tearing it up for Lincoln TSS March 17, 2010 Loan watch 48 Comments Four games in to his loan spell at Lincoln City and Davide Somma netted his third goal on Tuesday to salvage a point for the Imps at home to Dagenham & Redbridge. “The Daggers looked set for a valuable away victory in League Two on Tuesday night until Somma, on loan from Leeds, latched onto a header from Steve Lennon and smashed his shot into the back of the net.” Teamtalk Lincoln City Struggling Lincoln have seen a mini-revival since Somma’s arrival. The on-loan Leeds United striker scored on his debut against Crewe Alexandra to earn the Imps a 1-1 draw and followed it up with a belter to open the scoring in their 3-1 win over Hereford. Lincoln are undefeated in the four games since Somma’s arrival and are comfortably clear of the League Two drop zone with ten games remaining. Davide’s loan at Lincoln is scheduled to end on the 25th of this month and Simon Grayson must have noticed the impressive run of goals since his arrival. Somma was sent out to gain match fitness after an uneventful loan period at Chesterfield earlier in the season and may have gone some way to forcing his name into the managers plans. The young South African could be just what Leeds United have been looking for too. A powerful striker, standing at 6ft 1. He’s shown a lot of aerial ability in his reserve and loan games so far, which is something Leeds United have struggled for with Becks and Luci at times this season, so Somma should definitely offer the manager something different. In the meantime, Davide will get one final chance to show his ability for Lincoln this weekend when they visit fellow strugglers Torquay. Assuming there’s no extension to the loan agreement, Somma should be set to return to Thorp Arch following that fixture. Choppers Got to bring something to the party. I say leave him until the end of the season. He is not going to get ahead of TK Gradel, Grella or sorry to say Dickov. I also thought it would be good for Grella to go out and get some games under his belt. He always seems to impress in the reserves and might be worth going out getting games and competitive match time. TSS I know rushing players into the team never really works, but if that’s some impressive strike against Hereford. (The link to the BBC highlights is in the text over the 3-1 bit). Reminds me a little of Yeboah. Not quite as special, but does show some good control and the finish is excellent. Fingers crossed he can produce for Leeds. TheReaper08 In what way does he remind you of Yeboah TSS ? I only presume in that they are both originally from the continent of Africa? TSS Watch the goal Reaper. I aren’t saying he’s the next prem superstar, but the goal reminded me of Yeboah (Good control, hammered home). Don’t worry, I wasn’t getting carried away, just admiring a great finish! Choppers I saw him in the JPT earlier in the year I think it was or maybe League cup not sure. He came on showed some good touches and then pulled up with his hamstring. I watched him in the reserves and he looks more than competent with the ball at his feet, but he has been spending a lot of time on the treatment table this season Craig Am I right in thinking he’s a left winger? If so, he might be more valuable to us in that position, freeing McSheffrey to play up front (probably in rotation with Becchio). Matt BB I agree he’s worth having on the bench – would we have stayed up that season when beckford went to scunthorpe – I think we would have, in the same vein we definitely need to think about using him. I’m sure Graysons thinking the same thing but as you say would he be ahead of kandol, dickov? This goes to show the value of loaning players out, and if I were the manager I’d be thinking about who was playing swindon, millwall and charlton in the next weeks and thinking about loaning robinson, grella and ben parker to them. Craig Great plan! Not sure it would increase our standing in the eyes of the general public though. Matt bb Because they love us., TheReaper08 Oh yes get him back now, 3 goals in 4 games at L2 level. I should think Barcelona will be calling anytime now. On a seperate note any truth in the rumour we have a general tendancy to go overboard ? Craig Raph Delighted too see him performing well, only a couple of weeks ago i posted about him looking good. Hopefully not the only good thing out of South Africa this year…but something very important to achieve 1st Matt bb I think we’re all just pleased one of ours is doing well at lincoln mr grumpy.. Yes it would be good if that translated into a top performing signing for us, and why not? Again, lets batter those cocky londoners on monday, revenge for this season in league one. TheReaper08 Not grumpy just realistic. So far we have Beckford (who scores most of the goals) Becchio (the hardest working team player striker we have), Grella (a real talent who must be given a chance) Kandol (who can surely do a job) and now Somma (league 2 legend), please note comments in brackets are what I have read recently on here and not necessarily my opinon. And I didn’t even mention Dickov (oh my god how desperate are we). So many strikers fail at new clubs, leave him where he is and let him get games. Matt bb For me grella is a prime candidate for a loan just to get those games, i think somma is a reasonable player from what i’ve read about him, yet to see him to be fair, but lincoln fans going nuts about him! Grella just isnt an option yet and becchio works hard, so i think we do need a roll of the dice up front. That could be somma, more sensibly mcsheffrey or kandol. But lets not belittle somma, he is one of our own, we’ll end up singing his name… Well maybe we will. I still think there was sarcasm overload going on there my friend. TheReaper08 Hey Matt bb, I couldn’t agree more. I think Grella has been largely wasted. Not sure he is good enough but how would we know,he never plays ! Should have been sent out on loan a while ago. Choppers I agree with Reaper (I dont often say that) He needs games and needs to score goals. He is a striker and they work on confidence, therefore leave him be let him ahve his competitive match time, as opposed to him warming our bench. We do have a tendancy to go overboard. I, like all of us hope the lad does well, but that doesnt mean because he has scored 3 goals we should recall him, I say keep him out till January and then see what he does over a period of time and then have another look at him timm Leave him where he is for now, sending Beckford to Scunny did him the world of good. And let’s remember, ‘one swaller doesn’t make a Somma!!’ Sorry lads, i couldn’t resist that one! TheReaper08 What do you mean you don’toften say that Choppers ? I bring perfect balance to any discussion. I like everyone on here and I know secretly you all think my posts are the best. timm Reaper, i think you’re presence is needed on the clarkeonenil site. A ‘voice of reason’ is urgently required in the James Ellis article! TheReaper08 Hi timm, not sure clarkeonenil is really looking for another opinion. However, I do try my best to stay balanced and provoke balanced debate. timm Im serious Reaper, they’re actually seriously proposing we copy the scummers with a ‘scarf protest’! Unbelievable! Matt bb And what’s the view on putting grella out on loan, surely he’d benefit similarly? Craig He’s injured. Colin Sorry to have to bring everyone down to earth here, but the reason Somma is on loan is to get some form and impress so that he can gain interest from other clubs and can be sold next season. If Leeds are in the CCC next season, you can say goodbye to Somma and Kandol. Grella will stay as Leeds signed him on a new contract this season and are taking a gamble on him becoming a good striker. As for Grella going out on loan – that makes no sense. You would only put a player out on loan at this stage of the season if you want to sell them. If you want to either play them or develop them, then you want them to stay at Leeds and not go out on loan where they could pick up an injury. Grella and Kandol are cover for Beckford and Becchio. ie. they would be able to play a full game. Dickov’s there to be an impact player for certain games. Millwall could be one of those. For example, Millwall will try to wind up Beckford, so if he starts to lose it and get agitated then Dickov will come on. If Leeds are 2 goals up, then Beckford will come off to protect him from any nasty challenges and Dickov will come on. As for McSheffry – he’ll play for the rest of the season on the left wing as we have no other option. Bradley Johnson (as per usual) has lost all of his form and will only come on as a LB substitute. There’s no other player who can do a job on the left wing so McSheffrey’s been told to put up with being Mr. Left Midfield. Craig I really don’t agree with your opinion on the reason for loans. I think Matt has it right. Matt bb Wasn’t the case for beckford was it though? And kandol turned it round when he went out on loan, i wouldnt write off somma just yet.. The other side of this loan debate coin is that we’ve becchio beckford, kandol, grella dickov, three of them have proven they can score for leeds, thats too many, he wont loan out dickov, that would be frivolous, i think grella should have been put out on loan, he lacks sharpness and needs to be in a frame of mind where he believes he can score goals. As for mcsheffrey i dont rate him as a winger, white did a job there, doesnt that give mcsheffrey an opportunity to go up front, and what about gradel? Surely he and snodgrass can play on the wing? Colin I know what you’re saying but we have to remember that players don’t have to go out on loan. The manager can try and push them as much as he wants but if they don’t want to go out on loan, then they don’t have to. Leeds have some great facilities and if you’re a young player then I’m sure you’d rather be in a state of the art training facility than some crummy old 4th Division club with old training equipment. We have got a lot of strikers – but we’re hardly overflowing with fit ones. Grella is currently injured or just coming back from injury. Dickov hasn’t played a full match in months and can’t possible be match fit, which leaves you with only one 100% fit substitute striker – Kandol. If Beckford and Becchio both pick up knocks (or get suspended) against Millwall and have to miss the next game, then you’d have to play Kandol plus one other striker who’s not 100% fit. Imagine then if Kandol got injured. Let’s say Grella was sent out on loan as many on here suggest, then SG would be crucified for loaning out his players. Is it likely that Leeds would pick up so many injuries or suspensions up front? Let’s hope not. But it’s not an impossibility either and SG is covering himself for all scenarios. At this stage of the season, only a lunatic manager would loan out strikers of the calibre of Grella. Are Norwich and Charlton deciding to loan out some of their strikers at this late part of the season? No, because they’re not lunatics, and neither are Leeds. As for Beckford – we were lucky on him. Real lucky. He was a Kevin Blackwell (much underrated manager) signing and Wise came in and loaned out Beckford – he didn’t rate him and I reckon he was on Wise’s departure list. If you were Dennis Wise and you had just arrived at Elland Road, you’d look at David Healy and think “Great! Top Quality!” and then you’d look at Beckford and say “Blackwell’s brought in this non league player and part time RAC man for £40k – what’s going on?!?” Then 2 things happened – Becks played well at Scunthopre and Leeds go into admin, can’t sign any new players and Becks is under contract to the club on a pittance of a wage – so Wise had to stick with him. Colin And it really gets on my tits how people suddenly think that Kandol’s a great player. It wasn’t too long ago he was being booed by his own fans and they were ringing phone-ins saying that they would drive him to whichever club wanted to take him on. He’s not even close to Beckford/Becchio standard and I’m afraid I think it’s the same case for Grella. Whether it’s right or wrong, I think Dickov has become the third in line of the strikers. TheReaper08 Agreed Colin,it really wasn’t that long ago thatmost peoplewouldhave gladly driven Kandolto his next destination,nowhe is the second coming !Go figure ? Craig It may be true that players don’t have to go out on loan but, whatever the motivation of the manager, it suits them. They maintain their fitness – competitive games, even at a lower level, do this better than reserve matches. If they are on the way out it gives those players an opportunity to impress a new manager or to be seen by other clubs. As I say above though I don’t think loanees are necessarily on the way out. Most loan players have recall clauses in their loan contracts if they are needed. Matt bb It is too late to loan players out, i’m convinced people! Surely kandol has a role to play.. I always thought he was a poor signing, but to be honest he always scores when you dont expect him to, he’s the only optiln we’vd got for big centre forward. Matt bb Good debate guys, we should have a slot on lutv! timm Yep, i don’t know what we’d be talking about if we were 10 points clear? Probably who we want to sign for next season. Good stuff going on over on clarkeonenil site too. One thing’s for sure, it’s never dull being a Leeds fan! TheReaper08 My guess is if we were 10 points clear we would be talking aboutnhow lazy Beckford is, how White shouldget a game on the left and howcome Grella doesn’t get a game, sound familiar ? TheReaper08 And how we all wish TheRerper08’s space bar would work properly. Craig …and that he could spell his own name right! TheReaper08 I know this might be difficult to believe Craig but I absolutely promise you my keyboard is knackered. I speed type at work but at home it just turns out being gibberish. Must pay more attention before hitting submit post ! Craig I fully understand. I find the same moving between my desktop PC + laptop. Colin Craig – I reckon SG has plans for Grella. He’s meant to be the most skillful player in training. He’s on a new contract and we’re going to be in CCC next season where a more skillful player can show what he’s all about. I’m sure SG hasn’t even thought of ever putting Grella on loan. Now a key debating point on Beckford and the future!! I really don’t want to lose Beckford and I hope that the ‘no contract negotiations until the end of the season’ statement means that Ken is ready to offer a monster contract to Beckford (well I’m hoping and probably clutching at straws) BUT COME INTO MY STRANGE WORLD FOR A MOMENT…If Leeds could go into CCC next season with Beckford then I think most fans would say “That’s amazing. Well done!” But to get a CCC Beckford replacement would probably cost (and the price would be inflated because we’re Leeds) around £4m. You’d have to offer the new striker £15k a week on a 3 year contract which = £6.3m over 3 years. Now if you offer Beckford £25k a week on a 3 year contract, do you think he’d take it? I think he would. That = £3.9m over 3 years. Now compared to bringing in another striker, if you kept Beckford on that deal, you’d have just under £2.5m to spend on keeping the likes of Snodgrass, Kisnorbo and Howson. Then if Ken gives the money from the cup run (let’s say £2.5m) to SG to play around with, then I’m pretty sure SG would be extremely happy. Add on top of that, the extra money from sponsorship for being in a higher league (TV and I know that Netflights have to pay A LOT MORE if Leeds are in CCC next season) which would be another £2m, then Leeds are looking in a very good place indeed. You’re going to ask where all the money comes from for the extra wages – they come from the increased ticket prices and the fact that Leeds will get close to 35,000 at many home games. And we all know that there is some money in the bank as a buffer from the Delph deal. You could resign Casper on a 1 year extension. You’d think that Ben Parker and Aidy White are going to figure. You could get some long term loanees from the Prem. And you could sell the likes of Kandol, Robinson, Michalik, Doyle and Somma etc. and release Hughes which would get you another £2m and free up the wage bill. So even more money to spend! Financially it makes sense!! Any maybe just maybe, with that sort of money around we could become a half decent team. I hate to be optimistic, but if Leeds do (and will) get promoted, then it’s not looking too bad at all. We all know that there’s some seriously good CCC teams currently on Slack Alley and wanting to sell their better players just to stay alive and if we could become one of the vultures rather than being the hunted that we have been in the past, then we could get some quality bargains. Hmmmm, I think it might work! Alternatively, we could just spunk it all away on building a hotel at Elland Road. Craig You have clearly thought long and hard. You may well have a point about Grella. It is the scenario I’d like to think is in Grayson’s thinking but none of us can be sure and I don’t see why it would have prevented Grella going out on loan (before he got injured of course) for the latter part of this season. As to your ‘strange world’, your argument is logical as far as it goes but I think it is based on a false premise. You ask (and answer your own question): “Now if you offer Beckford £25k a week on a 3 year contract, do you think he’d take it? I think he would.” I personally think Becks is gunning for a Premiership club and a signing-on fee. The other point I don’t get is your desire to get rid of Hughes. OK, he is not a ‘star’ player but he has been willing to play out of position all year, risking becoming the whipping boy for doing so. Hughes always gives his all, has proved himself more reliable than half the so-called specialist left (and right) backs in the squad and yet you are prepared to ship him out without a second thought. I really think he deserves more respect. timm I wouldn’t release Hughes, he’s a useful squad player. I think our biggest problem with Beckford is tempting him away from the Premiership. Im certain the best decision he could make from the point of view of getting regular football would be to stay with us but we all know that footballers don’t always sit down & think things through. You’re dead right though Colin, keeping him & bumping his wages up would still work out cheaper. On the other hand i’d be quite excited to see what calibre of striker we could attract if we were in the CCC. Matt bb Isnt mcsheffrey the natural replacement for beckford (were he to leave).. Lets be honest bates hardly ever spent money in the ccc last time, why’d you expect him to this time? It was his chronic lack of investment… Remember geoff horsfield, that left the threadbare side that fell out of the championship, dennis wises awful management didnt help, but as usual we lost a good player, hulse, and replaced him with a substandard cheap alternative, if beckford goes i imagine history repeating itself. Colin Matt – crikey! I hope McShefrrey isn’t a Beckford replacement. Not that he isn’t a good player but I think we need a goal machine in the CCC, because we don’t get too many from midfield. He got 44 goals from 143 for Coventry and 16 goals from 83 games for Birmingham, which is okay-ish. But if we wanted to keep him we’d have to buy him, and that wouldn’t be particularly cheap. Re. Bates and lack of investment last time in CCC – we were broke and Bates never put any (real) money in. I think he was just the front for FSF who bought the club, but had no money to invest in the team. I think they hoped that Leeds would have enough about them and that they would be able to generate a profit. That was never going to happen and i don’t think we actually started making money until last season. The only place we get any money from is our profits. Bates/FSF etc. are not going invest any extra of their own money, but there is cash in the bank that we’ve slowly built up. Why do I think it’ll be different this time round and there will be money to spend. Because it’s imperative to FSF that Leeds stay in the CCC as this will generate a good profit. Bates has done what he had to do – he’s stripped Leeds down to the absolute core. There are no more hangers on, no large wage bill, no other players to pay off. Only the rental on TA and ER remain. Norwich, Charlton, Southampton have huge wage bills compared to us and then in the CCC, most of those clubs have even higher wage bills and most of them are struggling to bring in enough just to pay the players. Cardiff, Palace, Watford are in negative equity and they’re completely knackered and when Portsmouth get relegated they’ll join that group also. Sheff Utd/Wed, Derby, Ipswich, Bristol, Middlesborough aren’t far behind and just keeping afloat. Norwich, Charlton, Southampton look like good teams, but if they went into the CCC they wouldn’t have any more money to invest – they’ve got their CCC right now in League 1. If Leeds get promoted there’s only a handful of teams who either have money (like QPR) or turn over a decent profit (like Forest) and Leeds would be one of them. And there’s one golden egg at the end of it – if England get 2018 World Cup. There’s only one ground in next season’s CCC that could be a host site and that’s ER. I’m pretty sure that if Leeds got the go-ahead, as if by magic we’d find some money to buy back ER and develop it to meet Fifa standards. If Bates/FSF manage to pull that off then that’s pay day – and you can pretty much guarantee a good life in the Prem with that money. Basically FSF want 1) to get Leeds into CCC for next season, 2) 2010/2011 season – stay in CCC and 3) get Leeds as a host city for the World Cup. Colin If Leeds were chosen as a host site – Leeds City Council would buy back ER and charge Leeds rent, and jointly develop it. So Ken would get his hotel and covered platforms so no-one gets wet and the council would ask for some sort of community commitment – something for the kids and the local people. Which is no bad thing in my book. The council would get loads of cash from all the visitors. This would help to rebuild Leeds as a city. Leeds then becomes the biggest and best city in the North of England (Manchester can go stick it) and then it’s only a matter of time before people become completely disillusioned with the British Government, cue mass riots, London gets burned down and Leeds is rightly declared as capital of the UK and then everyone in the UK lives happily ever after. Simples. You see, Bates isn’t just doing this for Leeds, he’s doing it for the country. He’s a philanthropist don’t you know Colin I’m going to get off my soapbox now as I have to take my medication. My head hurts timm Just breathed a massive sigh of relief as we seem to have got off extremely lightly with todays scores. It’s down to us on monday now. Craig I really don’t agree simply because we were still in fire-sale territory when we were in freefall. Things are very different in this new building era.