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	<title>Comments on: Fan&#039;s ignorance spoils Remembrance Day cup win against Oldham Athletic</title>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 09:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For me, long after the football aspect of this game has faded from memory, which won&#039;t take too long, the overriding memory will also be of the Leeds fans&#039; disrespect for the minute&#039;s silence.  It was probably only a handful but unfortunately the lot of us will likely be tarred with the same brush.  I have to say though the other audio coming through loud and clear was the &quot;airplane&quot; song which is probably not that further up the scale of tastefulness.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I actually found the streaming pretty good, and that was without the benefit of fibre optics.  I can&#039;t get to many games anymore but remain as passionate about the club as when I never missed a game - so I would take as many games as possible over the web.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me, long after the football aspect of this game has faded from memory, which won&#39;t take too long, the overriding memory will also be of the Leeds fans&#39; disrespect for the minute&#39;s silence.  It was probably only a handful but unfortunately the lot of us will likely be tarred with the same brush.  I have to say though the other audio coming through loud and clear was the &#8220;airplane&#8221; song which is probably not that further up the scale of tastefulness.</p>
<p>I actually found the streaming pretty good, and that was without the benefit of fibre optics.  I can&#39;t get to many games anymore but remain as passionate about the club as when I never missed a game &#8211; so I would take as many games as possible over the web.</p>
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		<title>By: The ups and downs of LUFC: Oldham Athletic, Max Gradel, Leicester City</title>
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		<dc:creator>The ups and downs of LUFC: Oldham Athletic, Max Gradel, Leicester City</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 13:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] drive me insane. Coincidentally, the last game I actually missed was the first time we went to Oldham this season in the cup. My better half was ill so I had to stay at home or I&#8217;d have never heard the end of it. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] drive me insane. Coincidentally, the last game I actually missed was the first time we went to Oldham this season in the cup. My better half was ill so I had to stay at home or I&#8217;d have never heard the end of it. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Del</title>
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		<dc:creator>Del</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Best comment so far. Been a Leeds fan for 40 years and I travelled 600 miles for this game from the Outer Hebrides and brought my young lad to his first away game. I find for someone to pass comment when not been at the match utterly stupid there are enough tossers out there sticking the knife in to Leeds. Those in the stand observed the silence and guys at the back were shouting to those at the bar to shut up.Game was shocking, stadium is a tip and the weather as usual in Oldham was grim  but the atmosphere created by the Leeds was top drawer and my son only wants to go to away games now! Big thanks to the staff and Oldham fans in the Rifle Range Inn for making us feel welcome. WACCOE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Best comment so far. Been a Leeds fan for 40 years and I travelled 600 miles for this game from the Outer Hebrides and brought my young lad to his first away game. I find for someone to pass comment when not been at the match utterly stupid there are enough tossers out there sticking the knife in to Leeds. Those in the stand observed the silence and guys at the back were shouting to those at the bar to shut up.Game was shocking, stadium is a tip and the weather as usual in Oldham was grim  but the atmosphere created by the Leeds was top drawer and my son only wants to go to away games now! Big thanks to the staff and Oldham fans in the Rifle Range Inn for making us feel welcome. WACCOE</p>
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		<title>By: Ollie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ollie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do find it strange how we employ so many stewards to make sure everyone sits down (don&#039;t get me started on that). Yet your permitted to chant about about people dieing? But most clubs do chant one or two songs which turn a few eyebrows....
&quot;When I was just a little boy, I asked my mother what should I be....... etc etc&quot; That seems to be accepted, but its last line is pretty hard hitting!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do find it strange how we employ so many stewards to make sure everyone sits down (don&#8217;t get me started on that). Yet your permitted to chant about about people dieing? But most clubs do chant one or two songs which turn a few eyebrows&#8230;.<br />
&#8220;When I was just a little boy, I asked my mother what should I be&#8230;&#8230;. etc etc&#8221; That seems to be accepted, but its last line is pretty hard hitting!</p>
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		<title>By: Dean A Walls</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dean A Walls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well put fella!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well put fella!</p>
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		<title>By: JB</title>
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		<dc:creator>JB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK - too late to change the headline I guess. I completely agree wrt the Munich song. Out of order and incredible double standards when the same fans claim injustice at the mention of Galatasaray. Both are dreadful and should be gone for ever at football matches.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK &#8211; too late to change the headline I guess. I completely agree wrt the Munich song. Out of order and incredible double standards when the same fans claim injustice at the mention of Galatasaray. Both are dreadful and should be gone for ever at football matches.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not the first time this has taken place, they did the same with George Best. I&#039;m a Leeds fan and a Northern Ireland fan so as much as George played for the most hated team he also played for Northern Ireland. Shame on you on Saturday [On Sunday more brave men were lost] but I&#039;m not suprised.
You know who you are, you disrespected me and the other N.I. fans who travel over week in and week out through good and bad times. Clean up your act your getting us all tared with the same brush.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not the first time this has taken place, they did the same with George Best. I&#8217;m a Leeds fan and a Northern Ireland fan so as much as George played for the most hated team he also played for Northern Ireland. Shame on you on Saturday [On Sunday more brave men were lost] but I&#8217;m not suprised.<br />
You know who you are, you disrespected me and the other N.I. fans who travel over week in and week out through good and bad times. Clean up your act your getting us all tared with the same brush.</p>
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		<title>By: TSS</title>
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		<dc:creator>TSS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 13:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, in heinsight I can see his point. When I wrote the above I was so infuriated by what i&#039;d heard that my reaction was probably a little hasty.

As I said earlier, I&#039;m happy to accept this may have been a case of poor communication, but when our own supporters continue to sing songs like the Munich one, it&#039;s understandable as to why many would jump to a different conclusion - as I perhaps did.

Dean A Walls (below) makes a good point with regards to the Munich song. The club doesn&#039;t seem to do enough to prevent this kind of thing and it&#039;s a massive part of why we have such a bad reputation to start with. We were quite rightly outraged by the thugs at Millwall for their antics, but it&#039;s hard to take the moral high ground when these things continue to be a part of matchdays.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, in heinsight I can see his point. When I wrote the above I was so infuriated by what i&#8217;d heard that my reaction was probably a little hasty.</p>
<p>As I said earlier, I&#8217;m happy to accept this may have been a case of poor communication, but when our own supporters continue to sing songs like the Munich one, it&#8217;s understandable as to why many would jump to a different conclusion &#8211; as I perhaps did.</p>
<p>Dean A Walls (below) makes a good point with regards to the Munich song. The club doesn&#8217;t seem to do enough to prevent this kind of thing and it&#8217;s a massive part of why we have such a bad reputation to start with. We were quite rightly outraged by the thugs at Millwall for their antics, but it&#8217;s hard to take the moral high ground when these things continue to be a part of matchdays.</p>
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		<title>By: JB</title>
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		<dc:creator>JB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 13:50:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With the greatest respect TSS, CF has a good point. It is your headline that appears prominently on newsnow, not your acknowledgment later that you might not know what happened because you weren&#039;t there.
Perhaps if you were unsure, you should have toned down your headline. I assume you are not the Sun or Mirror after all where facts never get in the way of a good headline.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the greatest respect TSS, CF has a good point. It is your headline that appears prominently on newsnow, not your acknowledgment later that you might not know what happened because you weren&#8217;t there.<br />
Perhaps if you were unsure, you should have toned down your headline. I assume you are not the Sun or Mirror after all where facts never get in the way of a good headline.</p>
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		<title>By: Dean A Walls</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dean A Walls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 13:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TSS,
I am sure that most of the people making the noise at the bar were not aware of the timing of events as I am also sure that most leeds fans as most people would be regretful if they thought that they had offended anyone in this way.  These things happen and the tannoy system and poor arrangement of the silence meant that noise was inevitable.
Unfortunately though there are still &#039;fans&#039; out there who continue to show disrespect to the dead i.e. Munich song, and people that would find this sort of occurence as &#039;Funny&#039;!  This is a problem with society as a whole and not just individual groups of supporters, we do seem to let them get away with it at Leeds though for some reason, and this has got to stop for the good of our great club!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TSS,<br />
I am sure that most of the people making the noise at the bar were not aware of the timing of events as I am also sure that most leeds fans as most people would be regretful if they thought that they had offended anyone in this way.  These things happen and the tannoy system and poor arrangement of the silence meant that noise was inevitable.<br />
Unfortunately though there are still &#8216;fans&#8217; out there who continue to show disrespect to the dead i.e. Munich song, and people that would find this sort of occurence as &#8216;Funny&#8217;!  This is a problem with society as a whole and not just individual groups of supporters, we do seem to let them get away with it at Leeds though for some reason, and this has got to stop for the good of our great club!</p>
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